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Game #14 Toronto Raptors 110 (12-2) - New Orleans Pelicans 126 (7-6)

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  • ReubenJRD
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    golden wrote: View Post
    Maybe it was obvious JR, but did you tweet my post? lol.
    Haha, no I honestly didn't. I didn't watch the game live or kept up with this thread that night! Coincidence.

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  • golden
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    ReubenJRD wrote: View Post
    For context purposes, I retweeted with:
    Maybe it was obvious JR, but did you tweet my post? lol.

    golden wrote: View Post
    And we missed a sh!t ton of open 3s and jump shots ....... we normally make. And Pels were unconscious.
    Last edited by golden; Wed Nov 14, 2018, 05:14 PM.

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  • ReubenJRD
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    Interesting tidbit/conversation I had with Coop:




    For context purposes, I retweeted with: "... so the Pelicans were just making shots, and the Raptors weren’t?!"





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  • DanH
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    S.R. wrote: View Post
    Raptors HQ link in 3, 2, 1...
    I will indeed be writing an article on this soon. But not yet! I want a bigger sample for all these looks (especially the bench with both FVV and Wright playing) before putting pen to paper.

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  • DanH
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    inthepaint wrote: View Post
    What is your proposed rotation at this time?
    I don't really have a "do this" list so much as a "don't do this" list. Essentially, stop playing JV with players who can't succeed in PnR. And stop playing the best PnR players on the team with no one who can set a screen, leaving the offence to fall apart unless shooters catch fire taking tough shots.

    Even if you are going to split Ibaka/JV at about 28/20 as they've been doing, they are being used in the spots where they can provide the least value. You can still start Ibaka-Siakam and bring JV-OG off the bench without having to play JV-OG with the bench units. Or failing that, you can have one of your PnR threats (Lowry, Leonard) on the court with the bench units, though I think that only fixes half the problem.

    Now, it should be made clear - even with what I consider non-ideal rotations, the team is super good, so will find success against most teams regardless. I just hate wasting large chunks of Lowry/Leonard's minutes. That shouldn't be a +10 net rating look. That's basically what the starting lineup was last year.

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  • The Claw Reborn
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    DanH wrote: View Post
    I would buy this if we were seeing more variance in lineups, but we are not. We are seeing a pretty rigid rotation (with the exception of occasionally swapping JV for Serge) with only rare lineup variations where Wright will play as the 2nd guard instead of FVV or Green, as an example.

    My complaint isn't with experimentation - it's with the lack of it. And I wouldn't mind the lack of experimentation if they were being rigid on a rotation that made sense, but I disagree with the fundamental logic behind the rotation patterns right now, so if they aren't really mixing it up very much, what's the point?

    Ultimately it's early and maybe things change as the season goes on. I'm just not enjoying the current patterns very much.

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  • S.R.
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    inthepaint wrote: View Post
    What is your proposed rotation at this time?
    Raptors HQ link in 3, 2, 1...

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  • inthepaint
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    DanH wrote: View Post
    I would buy this if we were seeing more variance in lineups, but we are not. We are seeing a pretty rigid rotation (with the exception of occasionally swapping JV for Serge) with only rare lineup variations where Wright will play as the 2nd guard instead of FVV or Green, as an example.

    My complaint isn't with experimentation - it's with the lack of it. And I wouldn't mind the lack of experimentation if they were being rigid on a rotation that made sense, but I disagree with the fundamental logic behind the rotation patterns right now, so if they aren't really mixing it up very much, what's the point?

    Ultimately it's early and maybe things change as the season goes on. I'm just not enjoying the current patterns very much.
    What is your proposed rotation at this time?

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  • DanH
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    golden wrote: View Post
    I think it's more about Nurse wanting his players to get comfortable playing with as many different combinations as possible so that we have the flexibility in the playoffs to overcome adjustments, matchups, injuries, etc.... We saw how Pascal 'needed' FVV last year which rendered the whole bench mob useless when FVV got hurt. Not the only reason, but I think flexbility factors a lot into Nurse's thought process.
    I would buy this if we were seeing more variance in lineups, but we are not. We are seeing a pretty rigid rotation (with the exception of occasionally swapping JV for Serge) with only rare lineup variations where Wright will play as the 2nd guard instead of FVV or Green, as an example.

    My complaint isn't with experimentation - it's with the lack of it. And I wouldn't mind the lack of experimentation if they were being rigid on a rotation that made sense, but I disagree with the fundamental logic behind the rotation patterns right now, so if they aren't really mixing it up very much, what's the point?

    Ultimately it's early and maybe things change as the season goes on. I'm just not enjoying the current patterns very much.

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  • golden
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    DanH wrote: View Post
    Two things.

    First, the Pelicans were just hitting shots and the Raptors could not. That's most of what the issue was.

    Second, the rest of the issue is the rotations are wrong. I'm getting to that point where the "experimentation" is grinding on me, because there really isn't much experimentation so much as defaulting to a poorly constructed rotation unless forced off that by a huge opposing starting C. It's still early, the overall success is fantastic, but man do I disagree with the direction we're going in terms of who plays with who and what skill sets are on the floor at any given time.
    I think it's more about Nurse wanting his players to get comfortable playing with as many different combinations as possible so that we have the flexibility in the playoffs to overcome adjustments, matchups, injuries, etc.... We saw how Pascal 'needed' FVV last year which rendered the whole bench mob useless when FVV got hurt. Not the only reason, but I think flexbility factors a lot into Nurse's thought process.
    Last edited by golden; Tue Nov 13, 2018, 11:57 AM.

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  • DanH
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    Two things.

    First, the Pelicans were just hitting shots and the Raptors could not. That's most of what the issue was.

    Second, the rest of the issue is the rotations are wrong. I'm getting to that point where the "experimentation" is grinding on me, because there really isn't much experimentation so much as defaulting to a poorly constructed rotation unless forced off that by a huge opposing starting C. It's still early, the overall success is fantastic, but man do I disagree with the direction we're going in terms of who plays with who and what skill sets are on the floor at any given time.

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  • A.I
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    Nilanka wrote: View Post
    I'm totally fine with the ISO-ing, as long as it doesn't result in low-percentage long 2s.

    Leonard is usually good at creating an advantage for himself, or drawing a 2nd defender.
    Its a result of what Kawhi said a few days ago of trying to get familiar with the offense and take some pressure off Kyle. Kyle also needs to get familiar with where Kawhi likes to get the ball. Its a work in progress.

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  • Nilanka
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    KeonClark wrote: View Post
    Leonard is an iso player. 80% of his games have been really good. I'm not too concerned, the guy will get buckets.
    I'm totally fine with the ISO-ing, as long as it doesn't result in low-percentage long 2s.

    Leonard is usually good at creating an advantage for himself, or drawing a 2nd defender.

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  • veda-parabolist
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    Pels were hungry this game. They know they should be better than 6-6 (this team is good... remember how they dominated the Blazers in the playoffs last year?), and playing in the West, they need every win. Caught us sleeping. The hungrier team won this game.

    It happens. Good learning experience. You gotta lose a game every now and then. At least we got the first home loss out of the way.

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  • G__Deane
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    Fury wrote: View Post
    Any news on Miles? how long will he be out?
    No timetable yet.

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