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  • golden
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    slaw wrote: View Post
    Of course, the Raps can't move both Siakam and Ibaka. You'd have nothing up front. Raps are super-thin across the front line as is.

    The vast majority of this team's woes right now are because Lowry is out and they are off balance without him. Ibaka especially, but Green as well, and then you miss Lowry as a scoring threat (teams are prepared to let FVV do what he can). Gutting the team for Beal is silly.
    Depends on what the deal is, though. FVV's salary looks like something you want to get rid of. Same with Norm, but he's playing a lot better, so you might want to sell high. OG has potential, but you have to give something to get and he'll never be even mini-Kawhi, unless his handles improve exponentially.

    Not saying the Wiz would even consider this deal, but if you can get Beal/Sato for OG/FVV/Norm/CJ, that's a massive win. More like addition by subtraction, rather than 'gutting'. It's the draft picks that you'd be more concerned about.
    Last edited by golden; Fri Jan 4th, 2019, 05:12 PM.

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  • planetmars
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    I would have rather had Butler.. but for Beal, best package I can put together would be:

    Beal+Howard for JV, OG, Norm + 2021 pick
    http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybr3nx6r

    Howard for JV makes me want to puke a bit but we'd have to include a big and we'd have to get one back. Mahinmi makes too much otherwise I'd include him.

    You keep Serge so you can play "small". Howard can be used against the bigger center's in the league. And if he doesn't work out you waive him (he's got a PO for next year at $5.6M which we'd have to eat, but c'est la vie).

    JV is also a decent talent that helps beat other Beal type offers.. and avoids having to give up an extra pick. Norm is cap ballast. OG is our prospect we give up.


    Ideally I'd keep JV, avoid Howard and send them Fred instead. And see if they'd be okay with a 3 for 1 deal with the 2021 pick. Don't think they'd go for that though. They'd probably want the 2023 pick too.

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  • DanH
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    Powell, FVV and OG is not quite enough salary to match Beal (shy by a few hundred k).

    We don't really have much in way of picks to send either...

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  • KeonClark
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    Maybe let's let our 2nd and 4th or 5th best player get healthy first. Like in the next week or 2 they both will be back. And then calm the hell down

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  • rocwell
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    Toronto is *about* to become a top market for free agents


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  • golden
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    MixxAOR wrote: View Post
    than OG + Norm + FVV. Which could work but our backup pg will be Wright.
    Then you make the Wiz put Satoransky in the deal and take back Miles to balance salaries. Satoransky is a nice utility player who can run the point, shoot a bit and guard 3 positions.

    OG/Norm/FVV/Miles out
    Beal/Satoransky in

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  • slaw
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    A.I wrote: View Post
    Its a lateral move. Beal is good player, but you trade Siakam and Ibaka, who can both play PF, then you’re stuck with OG starting at PF and having Boucher and Monroe as the main bigs off the bench...Yikes
    Of course, the Raps can't move both Siakam and Ibaka. You'd have nothing up front. Raps are super-thin across the front line as is.

    The vast majority of this team's woes right now are because Lowry is out and they are off balance without him. Ibaka especially, but Green as well, and then you miss Lowry as a scoring threat (teams are prepared to let FVV do what he can). Gutting the team for Beal is silly.

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  • The Great One
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    Need an advice from tenforthewin. Who should we trade for Beal bro?

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  • Abbas
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    MixxAOR wrote: View Post
    than OG + Norm + FVV. Which could work but our backup pg will be Wright.
    Imo that's better than FVV.... Wright at least plays pretty goood defense when his shoot isn't working for him

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  • Abbas
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    We need Joe Harris

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  • MixxAOR
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    A.I wrote: View Post
    Its a lateral move. Beal is good player, but you trade Siakam and Ibaka, who can both play PF, then you’re stuck with OG starting at PF and having Boucher and Monroe as the main bigs off the bench...Yikes
    than OG + Norm + FVV. Which could work but our backup pg will be Wright.

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  • A.I
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    MixxAOR wrote: View Post
    I don't trust Ibaka and Siakam is nice that's why I'm willing to trade him. It has to make sense for Wizards. I mean I can hope Masai can rob but I'm not expecting it.

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  • Abbas
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    Abbas wrote: View Post
    http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y7vma7mu

    3 team trade, who says no?

    Raptors line up

    Kemba - FVV
    Green - Wright
    Kawhi - Powell
    Pascal - Gibson
    Ibaka - JV - Dieng
    Nvm we don't really address our 3pt shooting through his trade

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  • Abbas
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    http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y7vma7mu

    3 team trade, who says no?

    Raptors line up

    Kemba - FVV
    Green - Wright
    Kawhi - Powell
    Pascal - Gibson
    Ibaka - JV - Dieng

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  • golden
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    MixxAOR wrote: View Post
    I don't trust Ibaka and Siakam is nice that's why I'm willing to trade him. It has to make sense for Wizards. I mean I can hope Masai can rob but I'm not expecting it.
    We could take a big risk and make it a bigger deal by taking back Otto Porter's albatross contract. TBH, I like Porter and he's been a terrific 3&D role player and solid impact guy on both ends until this season. Somebody do the cap math, but we'd need a ton of salary going out and/or a 3rd team. Porter is basically a overpaid veteran version of OG.

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