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Updated odds for what team Anthony Davis will be on for the first game of the 2019-2020 NBA regular season (BetOnline):
— OddsShark (@OddsShark) 29 January 2019
Celtics +150
Raptors +300
Lakers +300
Pelicans +500
Knicks +1000
76ers +1200
Warriors +1600
Rockets +2000
Spurs +2500
Thunder +2500
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Odds for a potential New Orleans Pelicans relocation if done before the start of the 2020-2021 NBA season (Bovada):
— OddsShark (@OddsShark) January 28, 2019
Seattle +300
Orange County +300
Vancouver +350
Las Vegas +400
Mexico City +400
San DIego +1500
Louisville +1500
Kansas City +1600
Mamba Mentality
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Fury wrote: View PostOdds for a potential New Orleans Pelicans relocation if done before the start of the 2020-2021 NBA season (Bovada):
— OddsShark (@OddsShark) January 28, 2019
Seattle +300
Orange County +300
Vancouver +350
Las Vegas +400
Mexico City +400
San DIego +1500
Louisville +1500
Kansas City +1600
9 time first team all-RR, First Ballot Hall of Forum
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Fury wrote: View PostOdds for a potential New Orleans Pelicans relocation if done before the start of the 2020-2021 NBA season (Bovada):
— OddsShark (@OddsShark) January 28, 2019
Seattle +300
Orange County +300
Vancouver +350
Las Vegas +400
Mexico City +400
San DIego +1500
Louisville +1500
Kansas City +1600
To be the champs you got to beat the champs
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Fury wrote: View Post50,000 is like pocket money for that guy. Or for every NBA players.
The NBA should instill a harsher penalty than just a fine for tampering. Like, banning Davis to play for the Lakers.
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Fury wrote: View PostOdds for a potential New Orleans Pelicans relocation if done before the start of the 2020-2021 NBA season (Bovada):
— OddsShark (@OddsShark) January 28, 2019
Seattle +300
Orange County +300
Vancouver +350
Las Vegas +400
Mexico City +400
San DIego +1500
Louisville +1500
Kansas City +1600
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Raptors: Siakam is all yours
— Anthony Capelli (@Anthony_Capelli) January 29, 2019
Nuggets: Fuck it. Both Murray & Harris are on the table
Celtics: just wait until the summer for Tatum
Lakers: we’re offering literal garbage. You have to accept this deal for some reason
Pelicans: ok..I guess the small markets can never win
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It's crazy how the meaning of a "contract" as it pertains to the NBA, has deteriorated over the past few years. First Paul George, than Kyrie, than Leonard, than Butler, now Davis, all just wanting to go somewhere else before the end of their contracts. Like, don't get me wrong it's great for the receiving team, that's the only reason we could get Kawhi and that's awesome, but it's gotta suck if you're the team being forced to part with the player.
It's almost like for certain players, when they sign the dotted line, they're getting the assurance of an X amount of dollars for set amount of time, but without actually having to commit to that team. They can just ask to be gone of they want to. I think that puts the team (particular smaller markets) at a big disadvantage.
It's almost like the "player option" year on a contract doesn't mean anything anymore. If you're a player of a certain level you can just ignore that completely and ask for a trade whenever you like, and if you're up for paying the "exorbitant" 50k fine, you can even state your preferred destination (usually LA), screwing up even further the leverage of the team you're working for at the time. To me that can be problematic/fishy for the league, if it becomes routine.
The counter argument to that is "well, teams can also trade players against their will before the end of their contracts, so it's kind of the same thing". But it's not really. If a player is moved against his wish, he'll still guaranteed the same amount of $ wherever he goes, but if you're the team, you're a losing that asset for a potentially diminished return (cuz other teams know the player wants out anyway and/or know he'll be likely a rental). Not to mention lost invested time in player development, derailed team-building timelines, lost marketing opportunities from a big player leaving your city etc..
I think we're gonna soon start to see a push within elements of the NBA for "reverse no-trade clauses". Like, you're gonna get this shitload of money for this many years, but you can't just "ask to leave", unless you truly have a "player option" year to opt out. If you do, you're breaching the contract and you won't get paid. I mean, there's gotta be a bigger deterrent out there than a 50K fine, which is nothing for an NBA player. If not, the formation of superteams screwing up the parity of the league will become more and more common.
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^^^ Well I mean New Orleans “could” say “we’re not trading you and we will risk you walking for nothing in 18 months.
An unintended consequence of the super max is it’s accelerating the decision and teams can view these guys as an asset to get something back before they walk for nothing. Maybe it’s not unintended at all actually.
One of these times I’d like to see a team just say nope not trading you. You can sit out the next 18 months and walk for nothing when LeBron is pushing 36 or 37. Might have to take that to wrestle back power.
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