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2018-19 Trade Rumours and Discussion - Deadline February 7th 2019

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  • rocwell wrote: View Post
    Damn Kings... can't make fun of them anymore
    You can now. Barnes is a classic negative impact guy. The hype around Barnes has always been huge, but he got exposed in Dallas as a mini-Melo type of guy who makes your team worse, unless you surround him with future HoFs, like in GSW.

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    • DanH wrote: View Post
      Best part about the Kings making the playoffs is it probably means the Lakers end up 9th...
      and Celtics aren't getting a lottery pick.

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      • bertarapsfan wrote: View Post
        This year is crazy. Lots of team going for it. I dont like harrison barnes game that much but he makes the kings a better team. I hope they make the playoffs their a fun team to watch
        Most advanced stats would say he makes them worse, but we'll see.

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          • DanH wrote: View Post
            Best part about the Kings making the playoffs is it probably means the Lakers end up 9th...
            golden wrote: View Post
            You can now. Barnes is a classic negative impact guy. The hype around Barnes has always been huge, but he got exposed in Dallas as a mini-Melo type of guy who makes your team worse, unless you surround him with future HoFs, like in GSW.
            Barnes makes sense with the kings, they dont care he make alot of money they have so many rookie deals. He will be playing in a fast offense like he thrived in GSW. I like this alot for the kings. If lakers dont get AD, their competition for bottom end of the playoffs while lakers look to be sinking. Please lets the kings beat out the lakers to make up for 2002 rigging. Im cheering for these pesky young guys from here on out. Den vs Kings first round would be a hell of a series
            To be the champs you got to beat the champs

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            • golden wrote: View Post
              You can now. Barnes is a classic negative impact guy. The hype around Barnes has always been huge, but he got exposed in Dallas as a mini-Melo type of guy who makes your team worse, unless you surround him with future HoFs, like in GSW.
              He's not a negative impact guy. He's just not good enough to be a 1st option like he's been most of the time he's been in Dallas.

              He's a guy who can defend the 2-4 positions and shoots the 3 pretty well and can attack a closeout when needed. Very useful player to have just overpaid for what he does.

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              • I like this trade. Good for the Kings.

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                • Shaolin Fantastic wrote: View Post
                  He's not a negative impact guy. He's just not good enough to be a 1st option like he's been most of the time he's been in Dallas.

                  He's a guy who can defend the 2-4 positions and shoots the 3 pretty well and can attack a closeout when needed. Very useful player to have just overpaid for what he does.
                  I think he helps put Sacto into the playoffs as the Clippers bow out...

                  They are going to have to beat out the Lakers.. who seem to have taken the wind out of their sails with all the talk of trading everyone like they were bags of ketchup at Mickey D's for Davis.

                  Now it looks like that deal is on life support...

                  If the Kings get to the playoffs...a big atta boy for Vlade who has been dumped on for years...

                  Stange thing on the Barnes deal is that he is still on the floor tonight against Charlotte...Box Score shows he played 26 minutes.. but with the game on the line in the last few minutes.. he isn't on the floor...
                  Last edited by Demographic Shift; Wed Feb 6, 2019, 11:37 PM.
                  There's no such thing as a 2nd round bust.
                  - TGO

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                  • Shaolin Fantastic wrote: View Post
                    He's not a negative impact guy. He's just not good enough to be a 1st option like he's been most of the time he's been in Dallas.

                    He's a guy who can defend the 2-4 positions and shoots the 3 pretty well and can attack a closeout when needed. Very useful player to have just overpaid for what he does.
                    Yeah his issue is mostly just that he can be a black hole on offense. On a decent team hes a good player as long as he doesnt try to do too much.

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                    • Barnes was the kinda guy we needed, consistent scorer, tier below all-star level and we went for junk

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                      • Shaolin Fantastic wrote: View Post
                        He's not a negative impact guy. He's just not good enough to be a 1st option like he's been most of the time he's been in Dallas.

                        He's a guy who can defend the 2-4 positions and shoots the 3 pretty well and can attack a closeout when needed. Very useful player to have just overpaid for what he does.
                        Fair enough. In a limited usage 3 & D role like GSW, he's okay, but massively overpaid like you said.

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                        • saints91 wrote: View Post
                          Barnes was the kinda guy we needed, consistent scorer, tier below all-star level and we went for junk
                          Nah, Barnes doesn't move the needle for us. For a fringe playoff team like the Kings, sure, but we're at a level where only star power really changes our ceiling.

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                          • golden wrote: View Post
                            Fair enough. In a limited usage 3 & D role like GSW, he's okay, but massively overpaid like you said.
                            Yeah but as someone else mentioned the overpaid part is basically irrelevant to Sacramento because they have zero big money on their books and can't attract top free agents anyway.

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                            • golden wrote: View Post
                              Fair enough. In a limited usage 3 & D role like GSW, he's okay, but massively overpaid like you said.
                              He won't be the first or even second option on sacto...
                              Fox......Buddy who has never seen a shot he won't take Hield and Marvin Bagley will be the focus of the offense..
                              Barnes will get his shots in the corner ....play defense .. and be the fix to a long term SF problem in Sacto....
                              They have run through a lot of guys in that particualr role with little success... Rudy Gay.. Ben McLemore... and Justin Jackson.... maybe Barnes fixes that....
                              There's no such thing as a 2nd round bust.
                              - TGO

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                              • Shaolin Fantastic wrote: View Post
                                He's not on cocaine. He's enjoying himself. There's nothing fucking wrong with dancing.
                                Relax

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