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slaw wrote: View Post
This is a very sensible take. At this point, just waiting to see what happens when Siakam and Powell are back at full speed....
Everybody looking for reasons, I think its just a case of a coach liking a player for reason unbeknownst to the rest of us. We saw it with Casey with guys like John Salmons, Luis Scola, no James Johnson, theres been other puzzling minutes decisions just as bad as this one over the years. Other teams go through the same shit, we just don't see it.
All we can do is hope Nurse gets over his Mccaw crush, or Mccaw plays better. Most likely the latter than the former. Mccaw is in his 4th year and has never evolved from his rookie year. His advanced stats were poor then and they're poor now. And people like Leo Rautins will say empty praise like "he played for Golden State under Steve Kerr, he knows how to win"...forgetting that despite all Golden States all time top level talent, they actually had a poor bench, especially on players 10, 11, 12...which is where Mccaw was9 time first team all-RR, First Ballot Hall of Forum
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slaw wrote: View Post
This is a very sensible take. At this point, just waiting to see what happens when Siakam and Powell are back at full speed....
The Theory of McCaw makes a lot of sense, if he actually could put pressure on the defense but the reality is that he gives the opposition a break and makes the Raps play 4 vs. 5. And on defense, he's probably our worst perimeter defender at the point of attack, so the reality there is that it puts pressure on our defense.
I suppose Nurse and Masai feel like they can catch lightning in a bottle twice and McCaw can follow the FVV development path until the lightbulb finally turns on. A fully realized McCaw could potentially fit the mold of the type of 2-player they're looking for. But then again, so could a lot of fringe NBA players, if given the same unconditional opportunities as McCaw and FVV.
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golden wrote: View Post
I suppose Nurse and Masai feel like they can catch lightning in a bottle twice and McCaw can follow the FVV development path until the lightbulb finally turns on. A fully realized McCaw could potentially fit the mold of the type of 2-player they're looking for. But then again, so could a lot of fringe NBA players, if given the same unconditional opportunities as McCaw and FVV.
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Yea guys I've been saying this for a while but Nurse just really likes McCaw. I don't think we will ever know the real reason which is frustrating because every statistical date shows he's not good so no explanation truly makes sense. But he's CLEARLY (as someone else said) ahead of RHJ and TD in the pecking order. So even with Fred back and us being 100% healthy he would be the 8th man. He's gonna get playing time so we all are going to have to learn to accept that.
All we can hope is it goes down to like 10 minutes a game or so. Or we can hope he finally starts to play better, but I wouldn't hold my breath with that part. I do think every team probably goes through this where a coach loves a player that's no good and gives them more playing time than they deserve. It's soooo annoying though. Especially for us because we usually have better players we can play over them. I was hoping this would stop when Casey left but here we are.I relish negativity and disappointment. It is not healthy. Somebody buy me a pony.
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KeonClark wrote: View PostEverybody looking for reasons, I think its just a case of a coach liking a player for reason unbeknownst to the rest of us. We saw it with Casey with guys like John Salmons, Luis Scola, no James Johnson, theres been other puzzling minutes decisions just as bad as this one over the years. Other teams go through the same shit, we just don't see it.
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slaw wrote: View Post
Don't McCaw's continued struggles (and I use the term loosely) basically throw that theory out the window?
Guys like Terence Davis, Chris Boucher, Kendrick Nunn and Duncan Robinson are exactly those fringe level players Nurse speaks of, who do have the talent and whatever else it takes to make the NBA. Those are the guys worth giving development minutes to.
Anyway, I don't want to continue the McCaw bashing. If he keeps being the negative difference maker between winning & losing, even Nurse won't be that stubborn to keep playing him or Masai will simply trade him. Until then, I'm just rolling with trust in Nurse & Masai to figure things out and hopefully it doesn't adversely impact our playoff seeding in the end.
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https://twitter.com/raptors/status/1...957388288?s=12
in the pic, his body contortion says it all...â€i dont deserved this ring, like the other 2, i am still trash and will remain as trashâ€
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SkywalkerAC wrote: View PostIt's not impossible for him to make some progress through these growing pains to the end of the season. Not drawing a player comparison, but I seem to remember a couple of you livid that Casey was starting Pascal in his rookie season - sometimes these things pay off.
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SkywalkerAC wrote: View PostIt's not impossible for him to make some progress through these growing pains to the end of the season. Not drawing a player comparison, but I seem to remember a couple of you livid that Casey was starting Pascal in his rookie season - sometimes these things pay off.
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The Claw Reborn wrote: View Post
Nah McCaw on his 6th year in the league playing 27 minutes a game with crashing down advanced metrics, the growing pain excuse is lame. Midget Fred less than 6 feet averaged more rebounds than this moron. No additional development is needed to understand where the ball would fall after a miss.
I personally hold out little hope that he could develop to such a degree that it would be worth the current detriment to the team his minutes represent. But the logic isn't that he's established. It's that he's so bad now that even a significant improvement would leave him as a bad player. It would require a massive leap to make him a sure fire rotation player.
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