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As a " fan " do you want what Davis is doing or Do you want what Chris Bosh did .
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Davis and his agent have flat out told everyone he 100% intends to go to LA with Lebron when his contract is up.
The NBA is a joke.
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Yuri Gagarin wrote: View PostDavis didnt say he wouldnt re-sign but its all the same if he did that means trade him and the sooner the better return.
Re Bosh it was bad because he said he would consider everyone when in fact he already decided but its nothing compared to Colangelos mistake of not trading him as soon as he declined the extension. Indidnt want max goin to bosh anyway
McGrady was worse he said hed listen to everyone then declined a sit down with Grunwald.
And ya Vince did dog it he made the whole thing into a soap opera.
Those three guys are what about 15 all star appearances and what did we get eric williams and popeye jones? This org has a history of fukin up
What I mean about the Lebron effect is it's like your convincing a woman to leave a guy who is in a relationship . For his own purposes he wants to destroy another situation . IF he wanted to play with AD he could have went to the Pelicans last summer .Last edited by guyroch; Thu Jan 31, 2019, 02:10 PM.
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Yuri Gagarin wrote: View PostDavis didnt say he wouldnt re-sign but its all the same if he did that means trade him and the sooner the better return.
Re Bosh it was bad because he said he would consider everyone when in fact he already decided but its nothing compared to Colangelos mistake of not trading him as soon as he declined the extension. Indidnt want max goin to bosh anyway
McGrady was worse he said hed listen to everyone then declined a sit down with Grunwald.
And ya Vince did dog it he made the whole thing into a soap opera.
Those three guys are what about 15 all star appearances and what did we get eric williams and popeye jones? This org has a history of fukin up
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G__Deane wrote: View PostThere's another out of touch athlete. Asking for a raise is hardly "not honouring your contract" lol
What a maroon .....
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chris wrote: View Postthere's a third option where the player tells the organization quietly without strong-arming them into making a move and severely hurting their leverage.
i prefer that
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Davis didnt say he wouldnt re-sign but its all the same if he did that means trade him and the sooner the better return.
Re Bosh it was bad because he said he would consider everyone when in fact he already decided but its nothing compared to Colangelos mistake of not trading him as soon as he declined the extension. Indidnt want max goin to bosh anyway
McGrady was worse he said hed listen to everyone then declined a sit down with Grunwald.
And ya Vince did dog it he made the whole thing into a soap opera.
Those three guys are what about 15 all star appearances and what did we get eric williams and popeye jones? This org has a history of fukin up
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The problem is that even if an athlete is quiet about his demands.. they get leaked. Reporters want in on that gossip. Guys like Woj are tight with agents.
If a player whispers quietly to his owner/GM that he wants out.. and the owner/GM then makes a private call to another owner/GM or to that player's agent, etc.. guess what? Someone will find out. And then it becomes public... and then the whole thing will turn sour.
There is no right way about it. One side of the fence will get f@cked. Bosh left the team in shambles but played out his contract like a professional. AD looks like a dick but is actually giving Demps and his organization time to put a package together and get somewhat of a decent return for him. I mean Kyrie didn't seem like a dick head at the time but he did the same thing AD did just a lot earlier in the season. Cavs got a lottery pick out of it.
Butler was a huge ass hole.. but Thibs still had plenty of time to find a good deal for him.
Carter did what Butler did (maybe worse since he dogged it), but due to impatience or stupidity or both.. Babcock made a crappy trade. Melo wanted out of Denver and Masai got a great deal out of it (in a 4 team trade no less).
But then you have situations like Deron Williams where Utah just punted him to Brooklyn before Williams even had a chance to complain.. or maybe he did privately and we just didn't know?
Ultimately as a "fan" I'd rather have my team be in an optimal position when its star wants to leave. With the Bosh move, S&T's were normal. Now not so much. So if we had a star now that took off (like Kawhi), there would be no compensation. And that can really wreck a team.
I wish in the NBA teams can get compensated when a player leaves in free agency. Like a draft pick depending on how much money that player gets in their next contract. If its a max type deal you get a first rounder (or two). If not than a second rounder.
Or don't make S&T's so difficult. I never really understood why they made it hard to sign and trade someone. Isn't it better to get some compensation for developing and then losing a star over just not getting anything at all?
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Fury wrote: View PostIf you get mad at Athletes for business decisions then the next time you ask for a raise while “under contract” remember “honor your contract”. Next time you want want to move on to a better job situation after perhaps being laid of “remember to stay loyal” to the other company.
— Richard Sherman (@RSherman_25) January 30, 2019
What a maroon .....
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Leaving your CO with his pants down isn't being a good soldier, it's funny af and merited by their incompetence, just we got asked which is better and the enemy you know is better than the enemy you don't.
Facts clearly I'm still bent about it, so I'm going to leave it alone
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Raptor Jesus wrote: View PostTo crib for a rapper, they both fruit though
Look give points to people for honouring the contract. Hell blame an idiot with decision making power for putting his organization in a position where they could lose everything for nothing.
Just don't act like, Riley Bosh Wade LeBron figured this out between the Finals and Free Agency. They had a plan and had uncertainty, so Bosh hedged by saying oh maybe I'll come back if they do x, y, z, when his intent was to get paid and go to south beach. Meaning they don't trade him and his S&T was still around come FA. If he's straight up we trade him at the deadline and he loses money.
Davis is doing the same thing (managing his options as best he can), except completely in the open.
Yall letting your hate or resentment for the 2010 lbj "decision" that rocked us to the core blind you. Bosh played by the rules and colangelo got caught with his pants down. I knew he wasnt likely coming back. Davis is not following the rules of the CBA. Hence the fine.
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KeonClark wrote: View PostThey're apples and oranges tho. If Davis told them 12 months he doesnt plan on resigning, that's different, and let's the franchise chart their path. Hes just strong arming them into a move.
Bosh played out his contract and whether we like it or not he was free to do whatever, and no obligation to care about the Raptors asset management for the future
Look give points to people for honouring the contract. Hell blame an idiot with decision making power for putting his organization in a position where they could lose everything for nothing.
Just don't act like, Riley Bosh Wade LeBron figured this out between the Finals and Free Agency. They had a plan and had uncertainty, so Bosh hedged by saying oh maybe I'll come back if they do x, y, z, when his intent was to get paid and go to south beach. Meaning they don't trade him and his S&T was still around come FA. If he's straight up we trade him at the deadline and he loses money.
Davis is doing the same thing (managing his options as best he can), except completely in the open.Last edited by Raptor Jesus; Wed Jan 30, 2019, 03:25 PM. Reason: Equivocation Clarity in the last line
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Fury wrote: View PostIf you get mad at Athletes for business decisions then the next time you ask for a raise while “under contract” remember “honor your contract”. Next time you want want to move on to a better job situation after perhaps being laid of “remember to stay loyal” to the other company.
— Richard Sherman (@RSherman_25) January 30, 2019
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If you get mad at Athletes for business decisions then the next time you ask for a raise while “under contract” remember “honor your contract”. Next time you want want to move on to a better job situation after perhaps being laid of “remember to stay loyal” to the other company.
— Richard Sherman (@RSherman_25) January 30, 2019
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It’s really fascinating how Loyalty is viewed in sports:
— Richard Sherman (@RSherman_25) January 30, 2019
- Player leaves team for another team =Selfish/Traitor/Egotistical/Drama. -Team Cuts/Trades Players = Business Decision/Best for the team/Smart. pic.twitter.com/SchaoVfmE2
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