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  • golden
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    Puffer wrote: View Post
    I wonder what Marc's off-season will be like. Will he see this as one last chance and put in some extra work this summer? At his age, and as a professional basketball player who has worked hard his whole career, there is only so much he can do but! Maybe work at getting his shot off a little quicker? Go through a whole litany of personal affirmations that encourage him to shoot more frequently with confidence? Spend more time reviewing game tape and seeing where he could have made better decisions, and then work out with those scenarios in mind? Not sure what he can do, but I wouldn't be surprised if he sees this as a chance to match and maybe then beat his brother's total.

    A MORE effective Marc Gasol would be a thing of beauty on this team.
    If Gasol comes back, they need to turn him into Brook Lopez. Just let it fly from 3 with no conscience when you're open. Passing should be the second option. That's going against his nature, but that was being used against us in the playoffs.

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  • Puffer
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    I wonder what Marc's off-season will be like. Will he see this as one last chance and put in some extra work this summer? At his age, and as a professional basketball player who has worked hard his whole career, there is only so much he can do but! Maybe work at getting his shot off a little quicker? Go through a whole litany of personal affirmations that encourage him to shoot more frequently with confidence? Spend more time reviewing game tape and seeing where he could have made better decisions, and then work out with those scenarios in mind? Not sure what he can do, but I wouldn't be surprised if he sees this as a chance to match and maybe then beat his brother's total.

    A MORE effective Marc Gasol would be a thing of beauty on this team.

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  • Zak24gege
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    Joey wrote: View Post

    At least we have a legit reason to start discussing retiring numbers in the near future. I say the whole starting line-up gets the Nod. And Fred. And Serge. Fuck it, why not. Lol
    Can't leave out Norm.

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  • Joey
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    007 wrote: View Post

    You’re right, but it’s going to be hard to move on from anyone from this team lol
    At least we have a legit reason to start discussing retiring numbers in the near future. I say the whole starting line-up gets the Nod. And Fred. And Serge. Fuck it, why not. Lol

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  • 007
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    KeonClark wrote: View Post

    Hes also very clearly in sharp decline. One day we'll blink and he can longer defend the pick n roll at the 3 pt line anymore
    You’re right, but it’s going to be hard to move on from anyone from this team lol

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  • Joey
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    I think with a full training camp to get him into "Raptors-shape" rather than "Grit n' Grind-shape" will make a world of difference. The guy changed our team completely for the better even moving at half-speed.

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  • LJ2
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    KeonClark wrote: View Post

    Hes also very clearly in sharp decline. One day we'll blink and he can longer defend the pick n roll at the 3 pt line anymore
    Agreed, he's right at the edge of the cliff. Still, what he was able to bring was integral to the championship run.

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  • Zainab
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    imagine we bring JV back, that would be insane

    Also, Marc is aging so I think he staysssss

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  • G__Deane
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    Nilanka wrote: View Post
    I'm somewhat curious to see how Gasol looks following a full training camp with these guys. I would imagine Nurse attempts to integrate him more as a scorer.
    That's the hope becuase I think it's 99% Marc stays put. I got so frustrated when he's pass out of easy bunnies in favour of a low percentage touch pass. The guy could get 10-15 every night without giving up any of his passing skills by just being a bit more selective or court-aware; he sees the whole court except himself lol

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  • Nilanka
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    I'm somewhat curious to see how Gasol looks following a full training camp with these guys. I would imagine Nurse attempts to integrate him more as a scorer.

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  • planetmars
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    Lots of big centers available in free agency this summer: Marc (if he opts out), Vucevic, JV, Jordan, Cousins, Lopez (Brook and Robin), Kanter, McGee (plus others who can play C like Horford/Dedmon/WCS)..

    Not sure the best strategy for Marc would be to opt out and then compete with those guys for a deal. But age is a factor too. I suspect he'll opt in but I'm like 50/50 on that. Have no real insights on which way he's leaning.

    JV opted out which was a surprise to be honest. 2020 looks like a better year for guys looking for a big pay check. Not a lot of bigs that summer (potentially).



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  • KeonClark
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    DanH wrote: View Post

    Yeah, Gasol was a disaster offensively in the PHI series and almost cost us that round in spite of the great job he did on Embiid. I thought he was better vs MIL and GSW (thank goodness).
    I think we still win Philly with JV instead of Gasol. Game 2 I look at in particular. Raptors list 94-89, and Marc had 5 pts ..Serge had 2..7 pts in 48 minutes, that game was a disaster offensively and JV would helped...However I think we lose Milwaukee with JV instead of Gasol and our run ends in a 6 or 7 game defeat in the conf finals.

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  • DanH
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    golden wrote: View Post

    He also can't finish at the rim against a defensive stalwart like Tobias Harris, and he grinds the offense to a halt when he goes into his "afraid to shoot" modes. I was done with the pretty passing after the Philly series, tbh. It ended up with Siakam contested 3's with 2 seconds on the clock or Kawhi having to create against 3 defenders. And Gasol was pretty much telegraphic those beautiful looking touch/swing passes, so defenders knew exactly where the ball was going.
    Yeah, Gasol was a disaster offensively in the PHI series and almost cost us that round in spite of the great job he did on Embiid. I thought he was better vs MIL and GSW (thank goodness).

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  • golden
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    LJ2 wrote: View Post
    Marc's just got such an interesting mesh of skills that it makes him really difficult to replace with one player. He defends at a high level without athleticism, but also hits 3's AND is key to moving the ball from that point-centre position.
    He also can't finish at the rim against a defensive stalwart like Tobias Harris, and he grinds the offense to a halt when he goes into his "afraid to shoot" modes. I was done with the pretty passing after the Philly series, tbh. It ended up with Siakam contested 3's with 2 seconds on the clock or Kawhi having to create against 3 defenders. And Gasol was pretty much telegraphing those beautiful looking touch/swing passes, so defenders knew exactly where the ball was going.
    Last edited by golden; Mon Jun 24, 2019, 03:41 PM.

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  • KeonClark
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    golden wrote: View Post

    Gasol @ 16M per year still feels like an overpay, IMO. We might be better off if he opts-in and use his expiring salary at the trade deadline to grab a decent player for the playoffs and some draft assets from those treadmill teams who are perpetually chasing cap space.
    If he opts in and can still play anything close to like he did this year, we keep him for the repeat drive. The east will go thru Embiid and giannis again.

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