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It's also worth noting that major upgrades at the trade deadline don't have a great history of success in the NBA. Bit players, sure, but a top two or three player? There just isn't enough time to get everything to gel.
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JimiCliff wrote: View Post
I didn't like the trade initially, talked myself into, and it's starting to feel like a bad move. Guys you can go to war with in the playoffs don't grow on trees.
JV would be so sweet right now, staggered to when Kawhi sits. Dump it in the post.
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KeonClark wrote: View PostThis is where I remind everyone that JV vs the Cavs in last years 2nd round averaged 16.25 pts and 12.25 rebounds, including 21 and 21 in game 1, in far less minutes than Marc.
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The Great One wrote: View PostDude is getting outplayed by Moose Monroe in this series.
but yeah never forget we released moose cause whatever who cares, and thought Eric Moreland would be replaceable
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KeonClark wrote: View PostThis is where I remind everyone that JV vs the Cavs in last years 2nd round averaged 16.25 pts and 12.25 rebounds, including 21 and 21 in game 1, in far less minutes than Marc.
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This is where I remind everyone that JV vs the Cavs in last years 2nd round averaged 16.25 pts and 12.25 rebounds, including 21 and 21 in game 1, in far less minutes than Marc.
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golden wrote: View Post
Yeah, well if Nurse just stops being stubborn and matches Gasol with Embiid at the 6min mark of the 1st quarter, then Gasol can come back in fresh as the 1st or 2nd scoring option when Embiid returns to prop up our sad sack bench. Not only that, leaving at the 6min mark would give Serge a nice 6 minute run do run a few pick & pops with Lowry to get him going. Voila - 2 problems solved. The only reason I could think of Nurse being so stubborn to tether Gasol to Embiid is to not give a perceived psychological advantage that the Sixers are "imposing their will" and the Raps are reacting, which is a mantra that Nurse has been repeatedly blathering about all playoffs.
I don't know if its an ego thing of coaches to not make a change suggested by fans and media, but the obvious ones were discussed ad nauseum, and seemed to be more common sense than anything.
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KeonClark wrote: View Post
I would say its the latter not the former. Kyle is the last common denominator. I'm not sure which role players you're referring that have moved on and had good playoffs? Amir, 2Pat, Derozan, Ross, JV, Carroll, Cojo...they've all moved and either don't make the playoffs or haven't been anything special. Lou Will had a virtuoso first round this year, but he's a completely better player than he was here.
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KeonClark wrote: View PostAs I was saying
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planetmars wrote: View Post
I don't understand the Raptor collective psyche. It's not the coach.. Nurse is generally calm and collected. Is it us the fans? Most fans are insecure as hell.. and it's hard not to be. We're a country not a city or state. We don't get "ESPN". We're like the bastard child of the NBA. But our fans can be hard core. Is that too much pressure for these guys?
I mean every single Raptor that was a role player here seems to move on somewhere else and is fine in the playoffs. But here we turtle so bad.
Maybe the problem is Lowry. Maybe he influences the team so much that it rubs off on anyone (who's not human - ie, Kawhi).
Siakam improved for sure.. but he was still pretty bad the last two games. That trip on Embiid for example shows you how mentally fragile he was.
I love Lowry.. he is the reason why we have been so successful during the Masai years. But I really think he's also the reason why we've plateaued as a franchise. He's our engine but it's just become so unreliable sad to say. The problem is we have no contingency plan once Lowry leaves or gets traded.
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As I was saying
“I always think that really good teams, offensively anyway, usually need a lead guy, and then obviously a second guy,” Nurse had said earlier Thursday. “But the third guy is also important, too — that there’s a third guy you can go to and score.
“Now, we’ve got Kawhi, Pascal and Kyle can be that guy. But I think Marc needs to inch his way into that discussion. He’s just too talented of a scorer to not put up a few more points.”
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KeonClark wrote: View Post
I remember we all said in the regular season "the team is now built to survive lowrys disappearing acts" we dont need him to score
what we didn't plan for is Marc, serge, fred, danny and norm to also shrink.
maybe it's just a raptors curse..but then again our MVP and our MIP have actually IMPROVED their games. But that's only 2 men.
I mean every single Raptor that was a role player here seems to move on somewhere else and is fine in the playoffs. But here we turtle so bad.
Maybe the problem is Lowry. Maybe he influences the team so much that it rubs off on anyone (who's not human - ie, Kawhi).
Siakam improved for sure.. but he was still pretty bad the last two games. That trip on Embiid for example shows you how mentally fragile he was.
I love Lowry.. he is the reason why we have been so successful during the Masai years. But I really think he's also the reason why we've plateaued as a franchise. He's our engine but it's just become so unreliable sad to say. The problem is we have no contingency plan once Lowry leaves or gets traded.
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planetmars wrote: View PostMarc Gasol is a grizzled vet.. 3x all-star, 2x all-nba (one first). He was supposed to be the guy that calm's everyone down. I thought that was the purpose for the trade. To bring his leadership to this team.. Something we didn't quite have with JV.
He's been to the WCF. He's lead his own team where he was the alpha dog.
Just so disappointing.
I mean with Lowry we've seen it before. He comes and goes.. he did score 20 in game 2. And hit two big 3's. But he gets gun shy. We've seen that in the regular season. I never thought Lowry would rub off on Marc though. Just so disappointing.
what we didn't plan for is Marc, serge, fred, danny and norm to also shrink.
maybe it's just a raptors curse..but then again our MVP and our MIP have actually IMPROVED their games. But that's only 2 men.
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