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  • DanH wrote: View Post

    Hernandez has been hurt most of the season, he's only played in 9 games. He definitely is a work in progress on offence. Has been pretty good defensively when he's played though, and has shown more nose for rebounds than I expected based on his scouting report.

    Boucher is definitely one of those backup Cs who would struggle to start even as an injury replacement just with his limitations and style of play. Though with a few big strong forwards they could probably survive (Rondae is a guy who might find himself taking a one year again, maybe bring him back short term), with OG and Pascal both capable of putting up enough resistance to let the help defence get to where it needs to be. I think the team is better off just testing Hernandez in that role though.

    Whenever I dive deep on the C position it leads me back to the Raps needing to find a serviceable big who can eat minutes via trade. But then I start looking for candidates and it's rough out there.
    Well, we were a 50+ win team before Marc got here. Could we sign FVV and Ibaka without going over the tax, if we let Marc walk?

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    • LJ2 wrote: View Post

      Well, we were a 50+ win team before Marc got here. Could we sign FVV and Ibaka without going over the tax, if we let Marc walk?
      You're asking Boucher to take JV's role in that scenario. Boucher can grab rebounds but JV is a physical 15-20 and 7-10 guy

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      • LJ2 wrote: View Post

        Well, we were a 50+ win team before Marc got here. Could we sign FVV and Ibaka without going over the tax, if we let Marc walk?
        That 50+ win team had a) Kawhi Leonard and b) Jonas Valanciunas (for half the season). They still played at a 52 win pace while JV was hurt, but they played at a 68 win pace with him in the lineup, and both samples have Kawhi freaking Leonard.

        We could sign FVV and Ibaka. But any deal for Ibaka is probably both too long and too expensive for our 2021 plans even if we shed Powell. Leaving aside the concerns about Ibaka already being a downgrade from the alternatives he's gone up against the past couple seasons and his potential to drop off fast from here. That potential is there for Gasol too, of course, but that's why we limit the discussion about re-signing him to a one year deal.
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        • DanH wrote: View Post

          That 50+ win team had a) Kawhi Leonard and b) Jonas Valanciunas (for half the season). They still played at a 52 win pace while JV was hurt, but they played at a 68 win pace with him in the lineup, and both samples have Kawhi freaking Leonard.

          We could sign FVV and Ibaka. But any deal for Ibaka is probably both too long and too expensive for our 2021 plans even if we shed Powell. Leaving aside the concerns about Ibaka already being a downgrade from the alternatives he's gone up against the past couple seasons and his potential to drop off fast from here. That potential is there for Gasol too, of course, but that's why we limit the discussion about re-signing him to a one year deal.
          I think he's likely referring to the 50+ win teams prior to Kawhi too lol (2015-16 2016-17)
          They were almost at that level in the couple prior years as well

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          • G__Deane wrote: View Post

            I think he's likely referring to the 50+ win teams prior to Kawhi too lol (2015-16 2016-17)
            They were almost at that level in the couple prior years as well
            Hence the inclusion of JV in the discussion. And Serge was a PF or not on the team in those prior seasons.
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            • G__Deane wrote: View Post

              You're asking Boucher to take JV's role in that scenario. Boucher can grab rebounds but JV is a physical 15-20 and 7-10 guy
              Actually, it would be Ibaka taking JV's role since Siakam is our PF now. Lowry, FVV, OG, Siakam and Serge can still get ya 50 wins in the East can't they?

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              • DanH wrote: View Post

                That 50+ win team had a) Kawhi Leonard and b) Jonas Valanciunas (for half the season). They still played at a 52 win pace while JV was hurt, but they played at a 68 win pace with him in the lineup, and both samples have Kawhi freaking Leonard.

                We could sign FVV and Ibaka. But any deal for Ibaka is probably both too long and too expensive for our 2021 plans even if we shed Powell. Leaving aside the concerns about Ibaka already being a downgrade from the alternatives he's gone up against the past couple seasons and his potential to drop off fast from here. That potential is there for Gasol too, of course, but that's why we limit the discussion about re-signing him to a one year deal.
                Even if Lowry came back at a discount or do you mean without Lowry coming back?

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                • LJ2 wrote: View Post

                  Even if Lowry came back at a discount or do you mean without Lowry coming back?
                  Oh that's entirely without Lowry. If we want to leave room to sign Lowry at MLE-ish sort of deal we absolutely can't sign Serge, even if we dump Powell.
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                  • After next season we need to consider moving forward with FVV and Terence Davis or other more inexpensive option and regretably let Kyle walk.
                    You can't be left holding a $30M declining asset and you can't keep both FVV and Kyle. Big boy pants and tough moves needed.

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                    • G__Deane wrote: View Post
                      After next season we need to consider moving forward with FVV and Terence Davis or other more inexpensive option and regretably let Kyle walk.
                      You can't be left holding a $30M declining asset and you can't keep both FVV and Kyle. Big boy pants and tough moves needed.
                      You just hope at that point Kyle will come in cheap since we overpayed him that extra year and it a place his family grew up. Think its a pretty easy sell if we have another star player joining the fred, pascal, O.G core that summer as well
                      To be the champs you got to beat the champs

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                      • bertarapsfan wrote: View Post

                        You just hope at that point Kyle will come in cheap since we overpayed him that extra year and it a place his family grew up. Think its a pretty easy sell if we have another star player joining the fred, pascal, O.G core that summer as well
                        The hope is we get a discount, but it's a players league and they look out for themselves. Paul got his max from Houston at the age of 33. Kyle's age now. It's not inconceivable that Kyle will want the money.

                        Hopefully Kyle goes the way of Dirk and Duncan rather than Wade or Kobe. Dirk and Tim took pay cuts to remain with their teams and to help their teams get better. TD's cut allowed them to go after LMA in free agency. Wade didn't get what he wanted from Miami and took off to Chicago which was weird. He ended up in Miami in the end though but at that point he was pretty much washed up. Kobe was given a huge extension even though the team was trash. Would have been weird to see Kobe play for a different team too. But Kobe's extension hamstrung the Lakers for those years until he officially retired.

                        Lowry's not at their level but he means a lot to the Raptors. But I'm not sure if Masai would pigeon hole himself and his team by surrendering all their cap space to get a big star, just to keep Lowry happy. But Lowry is not wired like most people either.

                        May/June 2021 will be really, really interesting.

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                        • G__Deane wrote: View Post
                          After next season we need to consider moving forward with FVV and Terence Davis or other more inexpensive option and regretably let Kyle walk.
                          You can't be left holding a $30M declining asset and you can't keep both FVV and Kyle. Big boy pants and tough moves needed.
                          After next season we need to consider that Lowry may still be a better player than FVV by a good margin. If Giannis brings his talents to Toronto, I'll ride or die with Kyle motha fukin' Lowry.

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                          • What's the status of Gasol's injury?

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                            • Zak24gege wrote: View Post
                              What's the status of Gasol's injury?
                              Supposedly ready to go after the break. Powell still out for awhile

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                              • G__Deane wrote: View Post

                                Supposedly ready to go after the break. Powell still out for awhile
                                Will he be starting, Serge to the bench?

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