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  • bertarapsfan wrote: View Post
    you realize lin was getting paid 12 million a year before his buyout? what FVV is average to a little below average for what a backup pg/ 6 man get paid. FVV contract is fine its only for 2 years
    Lin got that contract from Brooklyn to be the starter a few years ago. My point is that we can always look for cheap role players as Masai tends to overpay our role players that we developed/drafted.

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    • I think the FVV contract was great it's pretty cheap for a PG man. the only OG's making less then Fred are Cory Joseph pat Beverly and DJ Austine the rest are dudes on rookie contracts or vets like Calderon. FVV for 2 years at 9 mil is a good deal 4 the team. we may end paying our next backup more then that and wish their was a 3rd year on f refs deal
      To be the champs you got to beat the champs

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      • I think we do overpay our guys. Kyle has the 7th highest salary this year. Powell has not played anywhere near his $10M salary. FVV is making 30% above league avg ($6.9M) and 3x league median ($3M). He is getting starter $'s (granted low end of pay scale) after 1 year in back-up role. Perhaps our slightly higher tax structure contributes some of the premium. Being the only non-US club could be another. All I'm saying is we do seem to pay a premium, as to why?
        Last edited by Zak24gege; Sat Feb 23, 2019, 04:46 PM.

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        • Shaolin Fantastic wrote: View Post
          Absolutely destroyed. Fucking hypocrites.
          😝 calm down tiger! Ya as slaw mentioned Danny shouldnt do it either IMO. I wouldnt do it I guess you would - cool dude. From the limited sports Ive played opposition locker is enemy territory. If the NBA is all flakey nowadays so be it. Cheesy to me.

          And for the record I dont hate DD I love the guy as far as you can love an athlete youve never met. Just always thought raps could only go so far as long as its highest volume shooter didnt shoot well and played poor d

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          • Shaolin Fantastic wrote: View Post
            I think you're confused.

            All those posters The Great One quoted were criticizing DeMar for going into the locker room post game. He then posted a tweet that showed Danny Green did the EXACT SAME thing when we played in San Antonio and not one of them made a sound.

            So you should be telling all of them to "breathe" not me. I had no issue with DeMar going into the locker room to see his friends, just like I had no issue with Green doing it. I am consistent, they are not because they hate DeRozan.
            So just because nobody said anything means they are okay with Green doing it? Keep assuming, its funny how someone who thinks they are always right is once again wrong about what I or other people on this sub think. Green shouldn't have done it either, do it outside of the locker room/arena.

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            • Zak24gege wrote: View Post
              I think we do overpay our guys. Kyle has the 7th highest salary this year. Powell has not played anywhere near his $10M salary. FVV is making 30% above league avg ($6.9M) and 3x league median ($3M). He is getting starter $'s (granted low end of pay scale) after 1 year in back-up role. Perhaps our slightly higher tax structure contributes some of the premium. Being the only non-US club could be another. All I'm saying is we do seem to pay a premium, as to why?
              Kyles was a overpay for a shorter term. that what you have to do in order to get him off the book when he is firmly in the decline but still keep him with the raps same with ibake. Norm is really the only bad contract on the team but if he comes around it could be a valuable trade. Lots of people have been ripping on FVV contract i think its ridiculous. Thats not starter money man can you point me to a starting PG in this league that make less then fred? (rookie contracts done count).
              To be the champs you got to beat the champs

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              • slaw wrote: View Post
                You are assuming everyone thinks Green doing it was okay. I view both as inappropriate. Not a big deal either way but I don’t think it’s professional behaviour.
                We're too old school, man. It's all about the brotherhood these days. It all started with the Lebron era Team USA. A lot of what's changed with NBA players these days (good & bad) can be traced back to Lebron.

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                • bertarapsfan wrote: View Post
                  Kyles was a overpay for a shorter term. that what you have to do in order to get him off the book when he is firmly in the decline but still keep him with the raps same with ibake. Norm is really the only bad contract on the team but if he comes around it could be a valuable trade. Lots of people have been ripping on FVV contract i think its ridiculous. Thats not starter money man can you point me to a starting PG in this league that make less then fred? (rookie contracts done count).
                  I was inferring FVV's contract being ranked 147 overall (30 teams, 5 starters = 150) is low end starter $'s. As far as comparable he is very close in pay to Rondo. FVV was a solid back-up PG for 1 year. (Basketball-Reference.com).

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                  • Zak24gege wrote: View Post
                    I was inferring FVV's contract being ranked 147 overall (30 teams, 5 starters = 150) is low end starter $'s. As far as comparable he is very close in pay to Rondo. FVV was a solid back-up PG for 1 year. (Basketball-Reference.com).
                    Overall contracts of the whole league isn't really a good way to determine the value of his contract. That excludes all the starting players on rookie deals and the position. PG tend to get more $ the top 3 contracts right now are all PGs. Search up just PG contracts. I think you'll be surprised to see the dudes in FVV range. And look at the type of money guys like reggie jackson, jeff teague and ricky rubio are getting payed. FVV contract if anything a underpay. No problem with the moneys he getting.
                    Last edited by bertarapsfan; Sat Feb 23, 2019, 05:34 PM.
                    To be the champs you got to beat the champs

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                    • golden wrote: View Post
                      We're too old school, man. It's all about the brotherhood these days. It all started with the Lebron era Team USA. A lot of what's changed with NBA players these days (good & bad) can be traced back to Lebron.
                      From the perspective of someone growing up playing and watching hockey as far back as one's memory goes, much of the NBA post game fraternization just doesn't sit right. I can recall when helping an opposing player up off the floor immediately sparked a debate amongst the tv analysts. Today it's routinely done, no big deal. Even baseball with the champagne drenched, ski-goggle wearing celebrations after winning the wild card game seems way too premature. That's a separate debate.

                      I can't attribute the behaviour to a single player other than agree it's the star players that determine the trends with the supporting cast following his / her's example.

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                      • bertarapsfan wrote: View Post
                        Overall contracts of the whole league isn't really a good way to determine the value of his contract. That excludes all the starting players on rookie deals and the position. PG tend to get more $ the top 3 contracts right now are all PGs. Search up just PG contracts. I think you'll be surprised to see the dudes in FVV range. And look at the type of money guys like reggie jackson, jeff teague and ricky rubio are getting payed. FVV contract if anything a underpay. No problem with the moneys he getting.
                        Biggest bargain Pascal at $2.3m next year. I think he would be a RFA? Wonder if MU looking to sign Siakam to an extension this summer? That will be a big one!

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                        • The Great One wrote: View Post

                          Trade Danny for DD now

                          And if it was was back when they played in San Antonio, it wasn't reported anywhere that I saw then. So how could anyone have criticized it?
                          Last edited by G__Deane; Sat Feb 23, 2019, 06:46 PM.

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                          • Green brings it on the court every minute he's on the floor.

                            He can go wear flannel with his buds if he wants, I will allow it.

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                            • Zak24gege wrote: View Post
                              Biggest bargain Pascal at $2.3m next year. I think he would be a RFA? Wonder if MU looking to sign Siakam to an extension this summer? That will be a big one!
                              Sweet avatar bud

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                              • Zak24gege wrote: View Post
                                Biggest bargain Pascal at $2.3m next year. I think he would be a RFA? Wonder if MU looking to sign Siakam to an extension this summer? That will be a big one!
                                I think we extend him this summer if we can get a discount. However that then muddys up our cap sheet for the following summer. We have to be wary of teams offering him a huge contract and then are forced to match if we go into RFA with him. I think if kawhi leaves it give more incentive to extened him this summer. If kawhi stay we can wait till the following year when all our cap space opens up. It may come down to a slight under pay this summer or a slight over pay next.
                                To be the champs you got to beat the champs

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