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  • 2010 NBA Draft, Who Ya Got, Avery Bradley or Eric Bledsoe?

    2010 NBA Draft, Who Ya Got, Avery Bradley or Eric Bledsoe?
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  • #2
    they didn't really make much of a case for them, did they?

    judging by what little info was there it would take bradley.
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    • #3
      It seemed like they pointed out the worst in Bradley and the best in Bledsoe.
      They made no mention of Bradley's defense, which is his main selling point...

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      • #4
        LBF wrote: View Post
        they didn't really make much of a case for them, did they?

        judging by what little info was there it would take bradley.
        After reading that, you'd take Bradley??? It basically says that there's no reason to think Bradley can play PG, and he's crap from the line. Meanwhile it says that Bledsoe is a PG, can score and defend. Just based on that, I can't see how anyone would take Bradley.

        Even without that, I'd take Bledsoe, but I think he'll go in the high teens, so if the Raptors want to draft him, they should probably get a pick in there.
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        • #5
          Everyone always makes an issue of these combo guards coming out of college not being able to adjust to the point guard position, but its always overblown. That being said, I think Bradley may be available in the 20's if we buy a pick

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          • #6
            cornbreadd wrote: View Post
            Everyone always makes an issue of these combo guards coming out of college not being able to adjust to the point guard position, but its always overblown. That being said, I think Bradley may be available in the 20's if we buy a pick
            Actually, it's underblown. The fact is the vast majority of combo guards struggle and most don't make the adjustment. If any of them ever find success it's usually as a bench player playing limited minutes.
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            • #7
              cornbreadd wrote: View Post
              Everyone always makes an issue of these combo guards coming out of college not being able to adjust to the point guard position, but its always overblown. That being said, I think Bradley may be available in the 20's if we buy a pick
              OverBlown ??
              Can you name few of them which were successful in NBA as a PG ?
              we can then look at their stat in collage and see what that say about Bradley.

              I still do not understand why Raptors want to take this guy and force him into PG position. Did he play PG in high school ?

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              • #8
                LBF wrote: View Post
                they didn't really make much of a case for them, did they?

                judging by what little info was there it would take bradley.
                Sorry, that you didn't feel we made a strong enough case for either player. This close to the NBA Draft, we're a little bogged down, hopefull you'll keep coming to the site and look at all of our other work.

                From now on we'll go more in depth, and we are always open to feedback info@therookiewall.com.

                We're also taking on writers, so if you're interested/think you can do better feel free to submit a sample.

                With that being said, here's more on each prospects strength/weaknesses.

                Eric Bledsoe:

                Strengths:
                • Long wingspan makes up for his lack of height, can give players fits with his long arms and outstanding athleticism
                • Unbelievably fast, withdecent strength, so he can keep up with any point guard, but also fight back if a bigger pg tries to bully him
                • Offensively relies on his speed to beat his man, and has the ability to change speed and direction well
                • Handles the ball with both hands well
                • Very good set-shooter, so when given enough space can knock it down
                • Fantastic defender who uses his length and speed to give players a really hard time on the ball
                • When on the ball or when needing a stop he is very aggressive and focused

                Weaknesses
                • Tends to over dribble the ball when playing limited minutes for Kentucky this season
                • When attacking the basket didn’t show the body control that someone like Warren/Bradley did which led to frequent turnovers
                • Not as comfortable finishing through contact
                • Slow release, which wasn’t a concern at Kentucky when he was the fourth option, but something to keep an eye on in the league
                • Didn’t show the ability to pull-up off the dribble, could have been because of his role with the Wildcats, but nothing to suggest that he’s a good shooter off the dribble
                • Struggles in general getting his shot off when defended, or closed out on quickly
                • When defending off the ball is much lazier than when on the ball

                Avery Bradley

                Strengths
                • Consistent shooter who, when on, can be an absolutely lethal scorer
                • Understands spacing, so in three on three situations shouldn’t struggle to realize soft spots and where to get to on the floor, in five on five not as effective
                • Controls his body well coming off screens and off the dribble, allowing him to be square and on balance when shooting seemingly difficult shots
                • Doesn’t need much space to get his shot off
                • Isn’t phased by having a defender in his face
                • Excelled finding his own shot in pick and roll situations pre-draft scrimmages
                • Defensively could become a lockdown defender using his wingspan and works hard to get through screens and generally is a physical defender
                • Was vocal leader in early predraft workouts
                • Excels defending off the ball denying his man very well

                Weaknesses
                • Struggles with shot selection as he uses his balance to justify just about any shot he takes, no matter how bad
                • Did not find the open man in the pick and roll situations in workouts this season, settling for his jumper which was falling that day, but may not be in the workout
                • Struggles around the rim, much better from deep and in mid-range
                • Not an advanced ball handler, relying on pump fake and jab step to create separation for his jumper
                • Doesn’t have the real point guard ability of Bledsoe, or even Warren, in this years class
                • Shies away from contact compared to the other players in this class

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                • #9
                  The next time someone argues that Bradley would be a good pick for the Raptors, I'm going to point them to this thread. Those weaknesses of his are massive red flags.
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                  • #10
                    TheRookieWall wrote: View Post
                    Sorry, that you didn't feel we made a strong enough case for either player. This close to the NBA Draft, we're a little bogged down, hopefull you'll keep coming to the site and look at all of our other work.

                    From now on we'll go more in depth, and we are always open to feedback info@therookiewall.com
                    now, that's the info i'm talking about,. ya, sure i might check out your site and if i feel like writing for it i'll send in a sample.

                    Tim W. wrote: View Post
                    The next time someone argues that Bradley would be a good pick for the Raptors, I'm going to point them to this thread. Those weaknesses of his are massive red flags.
                    ok, smarty pants who do you have then bledsoe, why? he's got some pretty massive weaknesses himself and were looking for dudes who can guard those pg's and sg's we aren't really caring about offense we have enough of that.
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                    • #11
                      Tim W. wrote: View Post
                      The next time someone argues that Bradley would be a good pick for the Raptors, I'm going to point them to this thread. Those weaknesses of his are massive red flags.
                      The red flags are there, but nothing too surprising giving how talented Bradley was and how dysfunctional the Longhorns were. He forced up shots, but really he should be fine once he gets surrounded by better talent.

                      Feel like the Raptors will be taking him at 13 if Udoh and Aldrich are off the board.

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                      • #12
                        TheRookieWall wrote: View Post
                        The red flags are there, but nothing too surprising giving how talented Bradley was and how dysfunctional the Longhorns were. He forced up shots, but really he should be fine once he gets surrounded by better talent.

                        Feel like the Raptors will be taking him at 13 if Udoh and Aldrich are off the board.
                        So if he's surrounded by better talent his ball handling, passing and ability to run an offense will magically get better?

                        LBF wrote: View Post
                        ok, smarty pants who do you have then bledsoe, why? he's got some pretty massive weaknesses himself and were looking for dudes who can guard those pg's and sg's we aren't really caring about offense we have enough of that.
                        I don't understand your first question, but the fact is that both Bledsoe and Bradley are excellent defense players who can also score. The biggest difference is that Bledsoe appears to be able to play the PG position, whereas Bradley doesn't. None of Bledsoe's weaknesses are fatal flaws, but being a 6'2 guard who can't play point IS a fatal flaw.
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                        • #13
                          Eric Bledsoe is an interesting player. I could see him being a Russell Westbrook type player. But Avery Bradley could also be that kind of player too.
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                          • #14
                            Raptor4Ever wrote: View Post
                            OverBlown ??
                            Can you name few of them which were successful in NBA as a PG ?
                            we can then look at their stat in collage and see what that say about Bradley.

                            I still do not understand why Raptors want to take this guy and force him into PG position. Did he play PG in high school ?
                            Tyreke Evans won Rookie of the Year. Pretty successful to me!

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                            • #15
                              Tim W. wrote: View Post
                              So if he's surrounded by better talent his ball handling, passing and ability to run an offense will magically get better?



                              I don't understand your first question, but the fact is that both Bledsoe and Bradley are excellent defense players who can also score. The biggest difference is that Bledsoe appears to be able to play the PG position, whereas Bradley doesn't. None of Bledsoe's weaknesses are fatal flaws, but being a 6'2 guard who can't play point IS a fatal flaw.
                              Actually it says Bledsoe can't score unless he's wide open and has a lot of time to get his shot off. Depending on what you're looking for, one could argue that Bledsoe's red flags are worse than Bradley's. What defines a point guard in the league these days anyways? If you take Derek Fisher, amazingly successful player, but never was the greatest in terms of distributing the ball. There are lots of examples of players like these. If the right players are around him, Bradley could be a very valuable piece. Besides, every team needs a designated lockdown defender, and everything else they're good at is just a bonus. Not being a pure point is not that big a deal.

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