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  • Bendit
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    OzRapFan wrote: View Post
    Being shit but entertaining is better than having that same crappy feeling at the end of the year when they took a nose dive and missed the playoffs.

    ...or squeaking into the playoffs, getting wiped like the Bobcats and then losing the chance to draft Davis (pick would have gone to Miami).

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  • Quixotic
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    Sam wrote: View Post
    Quixotic said: "But yes, I cheered when they replaced JPR with AA and things are definitely looking brighter by the minute."

    We'll see how the rest of FA pans out but I suspect a similar change of management is necessary for the rebuilding to begin. Whatever other criticisms people make, it just feels like Colangelo is consistently a step behind developments. Too bad
    Yes, my only worry about BC is I don't think he has the mentality suited to a real rebuild. However, BC is a much better GM than JPR so I don't think getting someone new would necessarily be better either.

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  • FromTOtoVAN
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    yeah were not as bad as people think we are looking at our roster we seem to have a lot of above average bench players but only a few obvious starters a lot of teams in the eastern conference are doing a lot worse with their rosters than us

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  • mo-sales
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    Everyone needs to realize that all these free agents getting huge deals re Amare and Joe Johnson are by all historical accounts going to take next year off and watch thier portfolio sky rocket and team record plummet.

    Amare only started trying half way through the season in a contract year and then only after his name started floating in rumors for guys like JJ Hickson. Joe Johnson is a merc two years away from turning into Butler and losing most of his effectiveness. Pierce has more mileage on him in the last 3 years than anyone not named Kobe. Philly might be legit, but that team is the Golden State of the East, tons of talent, no direction.

    Next years team if anything is going to have good chemistry. I'm not sure if that's ever happened before. Everyone wanted to make the playoffs, get embarrassed by Bron and lose the draft pick, but now when a bright future doesn't hinge on failure everyone is hoping to hit the cellar. Mediocrity might not be all its cracked up to be, but losing is a culture and can be easily be ingrained in the psyche of its team and players.

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  • Tim W.
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    Quixotic wrote: View Post
    Not much difference between losing 40 games a season and 50 games a season anyway. At least if we lose, let's lose the right way!

    Hope also does wonders.

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  • Sam
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    Quixotic said: "But yes, I cheered when they replaced JPR with AA and things are definitely looking brighter by the minute."

    We'll see how the rest of FA pans out but I suspect a similar change of management is necessary for the rebuilding to begin. Whatever other criticisms people make, it just feels like Colangelo is consistently a step behind developments. Too bad

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  • Quixotic
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    f91ultra wrote: View Post
    My point was people stepping up their game and proving the naysayers from the stateside wrong
    There's that, but then there's also:

    1) It has taken essentially career years from all of Gonzalez, Buck, Bautista and return to form of Vernon Wells for their current record. That's like 20, 5 and 5 from Turkoglu, 15 and 10 from Calderon, and 25 and 8 from Bargnani.

    2) The Raptors, unlike the Blue Jays, haven't had a bunch of talent maturing in the minor leagues the past few years (or in Marcum's case, waiting to get off the IL).

    But yes, I cheered when they replaced JPR with AA and things are definitely looking brighter by the minute.

    They will end up below .500 at the end of the season though, and have already been falling.

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  • f91ultra
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    My point was people stepping up their game and proving the naysayers from the stateside wrong

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  • INFO
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    f91ultra wrote: View Post
    I like to direct your attention to the 2010 Blue Jays.

    1)Traded away their ace for a bunch of prospects that aren't contributing this year.
    2) Many experts pegged us to be last in AL East, and quite a few think we'll get 100 losses (that's around or under .400 winning pct)
    3) We ended up playing competitive and entertaining ball, and is around.500 ball at the all star break
    4) Most importantly, the other pitchers have really stepped it up, especially the young ones.

    I won't be surprised if something similar happens to the raptors next yr.
    Baseball is a lot different than basketball

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  • f91ultra
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    I like to direct your attention to the 2010 Blue Jays.

    1)Traded away their ace for a bunch of prospects that aren't contributing this year.
    2) Many experts pegged us to be last in AL East, and quite a few think we'll get 100 losses (that's around or under .400 winning pct)
    3) We ended up playing competitive and entertaining ball, and is around.500 ball at the all star break
    4) Most importantly, the other pitchers have really stepped it up, especially the young ones.

    I won't be surprised if something similar happens to the raptors next yr.

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  • OzRapFan
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    Being shit but entertaining is better than having that same crappy feeling at the end of the year when they took a nose dive and missed the playoffs.

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  • Doc
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    Quixotic wrote: View Post
    Not much difference between losing 40 games a season and 50 games a season anyway. At least if we lose, let's lose the right way!

    Hope also does wonders.
    Yup, outside of my 30 win prediction I will have no expectations. None at all. Which will be refreshing for a change because I'm tired of these teams letting us down year in, year out.

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  • Maleko
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    Quixotic wrote: View Post
    And even if we don't have a contending team next year, I'd be happy watching a team of youngsters compete and play hard.
    Totally agree

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  • Quixotic
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    Not much difference between losing 40 games a season and 50 games a season anyway. At least if we lose, let's lose the right way!

    Hope also does wonders.

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  • Doc
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    Quixotic wrote: View Post
    And even if we don't have a contending team next year, I'd be happy watching a team of youngsters compete and play hard.
    Exactly .... if there aren't any considerable moves left to be had this summer and what we have now if the jist of what we're working with this fall, then my expectation will be nothing more than 30 wins. Like you, I too will enjoy watching the development of young guys like Davis, Amir, Sonny and DeMar.

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