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  • #16
    Trife76 wrote: View Post
    Young Guns = losing team
    Just remember the YG'z(Jack, Amir, DeMar & Sonny) are just 4 of Raptor's players on the roster. To want to blame the YG'z if the Rap's lose alot of games this season is up to the individual- situation critical call the medical it's gonna take a miracle to save 'em- as is. At least the YG'z will make the upcoming season somewhat interesting and potentially fun to watch especially if TO doesn't make the playoffs.

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    • #17
      Im not blaming anyone..i know what this team is....Im just not on this YG non sense,no offense to them but they are the nucleus of a bad team...they would never be the core of a half decent team.....theres a reason Weems never got off the bench in Denver and Amir in Detroit....im just sayin...

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      • #18
        Trife76 wrote: View Post
        Im not blaming anyone..i know what this team is....Im just not on this YG non sense,no offense to them but they are the nucleus of a bad team...they would never be the core of a half decent team.....theres a reason Weems never got off the bench in Denver and Amir in Detroit....im just sayin...
        Sonny has been much better than anyone would have thought last preseason while Amir is what he is an energy guy to bring off the bench (imo).

        They aren't the nucleus or core: Bargnani, Jose (until traded) & Kleiza are as TO has had a Euro (global) based basketball philosophy ever since BC took over. The YG'z are just 4 pieces of the Raptor puzzle.

        Weems never got off the bench in Denver because of George Karl, whom isn't infalliable in his player evaluations and can be a sometimes be a real d*ck ie Doug Christie, Bobby Jackson, Eric Snow.....who all got the Weems treatment(Christie was basically starved out by Karl after being drafted by his home team Sonics then traded away) but proved that they could play in the NBA once they left George Karl's team.

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        • #19
          Meh Sonny Weems is not a starter anywhere or even getting mins unless its a 15-20 win team with nobody else to play....Wait til we in mid January and were getting blown out every 4 outta 5 games.We still need guys to run out there and score in losses IE Sonny,Amir...thats why i dont get into this losing team nickname stuff lol.

          When this team IF this team ever competes or contends it wont be on the backs of no young gunz,Hoe zay or Barn yanni...

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          • #20
            SirChillyMost wrote: View Post
            Sonny has been much better than anyone would have thought last preseason while Amir is what he is an energy guy to bring off the bench (imo).

            They aren't the nucleus or core: Bargnani, Jose (until traded) & Kleiza are as TO has had a Euro (global) based basketball philosophy ever since BC took over. The YG'z are just 4 pieces of the Raptor puzzle.

            Weems never got off the bench in Denver because of George Karl, whom isn't infalliable in his player evaluations and can be a sometimes be a real d*ck ie Doug Christie, Bobby Jackson, Eric Snow.....who all got the Weems treatment(Christie was basically starved out by Karl after being drafted by his home team Sonics then traded away) but proved that they could play in the NBA once they left George Karl's team.
            lol cmon man you mentioned Eric Snow...as if Eric Snow was ever a front line decent PG....

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            • #21
              Trife76 wrote: View Post
              lol cmon man you mentioned Eric Snow...as if Eric Snow was ever a front line decent PG....
              Wasn't Snow the starting pg for both the 76ers & Cav's teams that went to the NBA Finals? Yes he was....

              He may have never been a real top line offensive threat but he could run an offense plus he played hard nose defense- a true NBA point guard that played 14 years in the League.

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              • #22


                Another dope YG's video- enjoy!

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                  • #24
                    http://www.flickr.com/photos/54930642@N07/

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                    • #25
                      SirChillyMost wrote: View Post
                      Wasn't Snow the starting pg for both the 76ers & Cav's teams that went to the NBA Finals? Yes he was....

                      He may have never been a real top line offensive threat but he could run an offense plus he played hard nose defense- a true NBA point guard that played 14 years in the League.
                      Luc Longley,Bill Wennington played on NBA chamionship teams as starters too...its meaningless...Eric Snow was a scrub.

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                      • #26
                        Trife76 wrote: View Post
                        Luc Longley,Bill Wennington played on NBA chamionship teams as starters too...its meaningless...Eric Snow was a scrub.
                        Says who? You? Eric Snow being compared to 7 foot centers is facetious, buddy......what about Cartwright as well....smh

                        Eric Snow was a top line defender, passer, dribbler & an efficient offensive player that played the point for two championship contending teams.....now Jose is a scrub.........not Snow- recognize.
                        Last edited by SirChillyMost; Mon Oct 18th, 2010, 02:22 PM.

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                        • #27
                          ugh this isnt worth an argument and its anyone who knows basketball and i was comparing scrubs not positions....Eric Snow is and always has been a bum....truth is that 2001 Sixers is a great argument for AI's greatness,he take a team full of trash to the finals....and eric snow was some trash....lol @ top line defender...oh yea i see them code words (efficient offensive player)

                          Thats them "mystery" code words with no real value or meaning you attach to bums for contributions they didnt make because you cant assign anythign complimentary to there game IE Matt Bonner....he was a "workhorse" "blue collar lunch bucket guy" "a go getter" "efficient shooter" "high basketball IQ"

                          stay on the look out for those useless endearing code words man !

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                          • #28
                            Trife76 wrote: View Post
                            ugh this isnt worth an argument and its anyone who knows basketball and i was comparing scrubs not positions....Eric Snow is and always has been a bum....truth is that 2001 Sixers is a great argument for AI's greatness,he take a team full of trash to the finals....and eric snow was some trash....lol @ top line defender...oh yea i see them code words (efficient offensive player)

                            Thats them "mystery" code words with no real value or meaning you attach to bums for contributions they didnt make because you cant assign anythign complimentary to there game IE Matt Bonner....he was a "workhorse" "blue collar lunch bucket guy" "a go getter" "efficient shooter" "high basketball IQ"

                            stay on the look out for those useless endearing code words man !
                            If Snow is a so called bum what does that make you........mirror check.........lol

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                            • #29
                              Trife76 wrote: View Post
                              ugh this isnt worth an argument and its anyone who knows basketball and i was comparing scrubs not positions....Eric Snow is and always has been a bum....truth is that 2001 Sixers is a great argument for AI's greatness,he take a team full of trash to the finals....and eric snow was some trash....lol @ top line defender...oh yea i see them code words (efficient offensive player)

                              Thats them "mystery" code words with no real value or meaning you attach to bums for contributions they didnt make because you cant assign anythign complimentary to there game IE Matt Bonner....he was a "workhorse" "blue collar lunch bucket guy" "a go getter" "efficient shooter" "high basketball IQ"

                              stay on the look out for those useless endearing code words man !
                              I don't understand why you'd say Snow was trash or a bum. Why would you deem him so? Because he didn't put up gaudy numbers? He was always a defensive-minded player who played heavy minutes and stayed healthy enough to be in the lineup every game. He was a smart, selfless player. Even though he was listed as a PG, he'd always D-up against the other team's 2. He was counted upon heavily by Larry Brown in Philadelphia and Paul Silas/Mike Brown in Cleveland. If you ask me, he was an essential part to those good Philly teams and the Cavs team that went to the finals.

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                              • #30
                                MangoKid wrote: View Post
                                I don't understand why you'd say Snow was trash or a bum. Why would you deem him so? Because he didn't put up gaudy numbers? He was always a defensive-minded player who played heavy minutes and stayed healthy enough to be in the lineup every game. He was a smart, selfless player. Even though he was listed as a PG, he'd always D-up against the other team's 2. He was counted upon heavily by Larry Brown in Philadelphia and Paul Silas/Mike Brown in Cleveland. If you ask me, he was an essential part to those good Philly teams and the Cavs team that went to the finals.
                                he wasnt essential in anyway to that teams success...lets be reality man,anybody could have done what he did on that team...any half assed 2 guard could have been a defensive guy not counted on for anything....you know why guys like him are not couted on for anything and referred to as smart and selfless ? cuz they bums they cant do anything else....theres a ton of mediocre PGs who could have been in Snow's place....ultimately AI carried him and a roster full of other bums to a ECF appearance...

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