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SirChillyMost wrote: View PostFact is that you don't draft an unknown overseas project with the number one overall pick- point blank, especially a self proclaimed 5 year project then in year 5 try to take all the pressure off of him being the Franchise go to guy by saying the team has no go to guy- then why did BC draft Bargnani in the 1st place to be a role player????
As a matter of fact the whole 2006 NBA draft stinks of Ewing/NY especially with the current perception in the basketball community that TO is a Euro team & has been an experimental Euro/International NBA team ever since BC took over. What better why to exemplify that than with a future foreign Franchise player? BC & Stern are 2 of the most deceiving folks in the NBA game in my mind.
Getting the second best player in your words with the 1st pick.....smh Bargnani wouldn't be a top 3 pick if the 2006 draft was redone in my mind.......arguably looking back he currently wouldn't be a top 5 pick- in a weak draft ie Rondo, Roy, Gay, Aldridge, Thomas....smh As well Rudy Gay was in the discussion as a top 3 selection from my recollection. BRoy was a surprise only to those who didn't know that much about him as most anyone who followed hs/college basketball from the greater Seattle area knew he was a far better player than Morrison at the time.
Fyi- I wanted TO to draft my 206 Seattle brethren BRoy (as TO already had Bosh & Charlie V on the roster), Bosh wanted Aldridge at the time but BC wanted Bargnani- guess who won out? Just like I wanted TO to draft TWilliams (206 Seattle ) over DeMar & Avery Bradley (206-253 Seattle/Tacoma) over EDavis (even though I like Davis the Rap's have enough PFs). What type of offers did BC have for that #1 pick- remind me please.........forget being general please get specific that would be terrific.
"an unknown overseas project"
wow
you do realize that bargs was going to go top 3 no matter what, he was far from unknown.
I wish you were 'unknown' to this board.
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Fabricated, forced or anything like that, Dre finally opening up and chilling with YGZ will help the team in ways that we can't imagine. I for one am happy there's chemistry there that can help the team gel, because with our talent level all we have now is the sum of our parts. Seriously people, this is actually something about the raptors to feel good about, because once the season starts we're gonna miss feeling good about this team.
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SirChillyMost wrote: View PostFact is that you don't draft an unknown overseas project with the number one overall pick- point blank, especially a self proclaimed 5 year project then in year 5 try to take all the pressure off of him being the Franchise go to guy by saying the team has no go to guy- then why did BC draft Bargnani in the 1st place to be a role player????
a FACT would be that Bargs wasn't the first unknown overseas project to go first in a draft. and the guy who was first DID NOT set a precedent of it being a bad idea.
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SirChillyMost wrote: View PostRap's scouting sucks balls........Jim Kelly needs to go ASAP.......smh
A BC consensous ='s yes men.....smh
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heinz57 wrote: View Postdo you understand what the difference between a FACT and OPINION is? Because you immediately followed up a "FACT" proclamation with an OPINION.
a FACT would be that Bargs wasn't the first unknown overseas project to go first in a draft. and the guy who was first DID NOT set a precedent of it being a bad idea.
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Trife76 wrote: View PostFalse !
Coming out his rookie season Chucky V looked like a decent big man..and the consensus is you dont trade big for small in the NBA...
In hindsight neither play amounted too much altho TJ 1st season here is still very underrated by the Calderon brigade BUT those moves def precipitated the selection of either bargs or LA and the overlooking of guards that were available in that draft....
Plus, Villanueva was horrible on defense. I was absolutely thrilled when I heard about the trade for Ford.Read my blog, The Picket Fence. Guaranteed to make you think or your money back!
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SirChillyMost wrote: View PostFact is that you don't draft an unknown overseas project with the number one overall pick- point blank, especially a self proclaimed 5 year project then in year 5 try to take all the pressure off of him being the Franchise go to guy by saying the team has no go to guy- then why did BC draft Bargnani in the 1st place to be a role player????
SirChillyMost wrote: View PostAs a matter of fact the whole 2006 NBA draft stinks of Ewing/NY especially with the current perception in the basketball community that TO is a Euro team & has been an experimental Euro/International NBA team ever since BC took over. What better why to exemplify that than with a future foreign Franchise player? BC & Stern are 2 of the most deceiving folks in the NBA game in my mind.
SirChillyMost wrote: View PostGetting the second best player in your words, mind with the 1st pick.....smh
SirChillyMost wrote: View PostBargnani wouldn't be a top 3 pick if the 2006 draft was redone in my mind.......arguably looking back he currently wouldn't be a top 5 pick- in a weak draft ie Rondo, Roy, Gay, Aldridge, Thomas....smh
SirChillyMost wrote: View PostAs well Rudy Gay was in the discussion as a top 3 selection from my recollection. BRoy was a surprise only to those who didn't know that much about him as most anyone who followed hs/college basketball from the greater Seattle area knew he was a far better player than Morrison at the time.
SirChillyMost wrote: View PostFyi- I wanted TO to draft my 206 Seattle brethren BRoy (as TO already had Bosh & Charlie V on the roster), Bosh wanted Aldridge at the time but BC wanted Bargnani- guess who won out?
SirChillyMost wrote: View PostWhat type of offers did BC have for that #1 pick- remind me please.........forget being general please get specific that would be terrific.
Can you specifically tell me where Bargnani would have been drafted had he not gone #1? How about specifically telling me why five teams passed on Roy and why six teams passed on Gay?
Trife76 wrote: View PostFalse !
Coming out his rookie season Chucky V looked like a decent big man..and the consensus is you dont trade big for small in the NBA...
Trife76 wrote: View PostIn hindsight neither play amounted too much altho TJ 1st season here is still very underrated by the Calderon brigade BUT those moves def precipitated the selection of either bargs or LA and the overlooking of guards that were available in that draft....Last edited by Apollo; Wed Oct 20, 2010, 02:15 PM.
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SirChillyMost wrote:N/A
And if you'd like to actually debate the content of my post, I'm anxious to read it. If you are unable to, then just say so. Trying to cover it up with an insult just makes you appear immature. Not that there's anything wrong with that... smhRead my blog, The Picket Fence. Guaranteed to make you think or your money back!
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Tim W. wrote: View PostNo need for profanity. Or personal insults, which is the last refuge of the defeated. I can't help but notice that you have real trouble debating with someone without personally insulting them. Maybe that's something you can work on. And no, I didn't make "shit" up.
And if you'd like to actually debate the content of my post, I'm anxious to read it. If you are unable to, then just say so. Trying to cover it up with an insult just makes you appear immature. Not that there's anything wrong with that... smh
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Tim W. wrote: View PostI felt nearly the same way about Villaneuva as I do about Bargnani. I thought he was vastly overrated by most Raptor fans who were mesmerized by his offensive skillset (sound familiar?). In fact, on one popular forum at the time (I think it was Hoopsworld), the consensus among Raptor fans was that Villanueva would be a better player than Bosh. Villenuava was actually the reason I came up with the FGA/FTA ratio as a way to tell how good a scorer someone could be.
Plus, Villanueva was horrible on defense. I was absolutely thrilled when I heard about the trade for Ford.
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