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  • mcHAPPY
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    Legalize-It wrote: View Post
    you can disagree with this all you want, but i think you have to admit, that it is much more effective to make projections about next year's salary with as much information as we have.

    You can disagree all you want but when GM's, sports writers, bloggers, NBA-dedicated websites, and most fans discuss payroll and future salary cap projections, the things you are speaking of are not included. If you want to discuss those or include them, go ahead, but your original post made no mention of these things and, as mentioned at the start, future payroll numbers by most fans, writers and GM's do not take in to account future draft picks or possible deals for free agents. Also you initially stated that you checked 2 websites that said $50M - please provide the links.

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  • Legalize-It
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    Apollo wrote: View Post
    Actually Barbosa's contract is included in the $45M and you can't add in draft choice salaries without knowing where the team is picking or if they're even keeping the picks.
    that's why i said "roughly"

    you take the average lottery pick's salary, and the average 16-30th pick's salary and it "roughly" adds up to $5 million.

    you can disagree with this all you want, but i think you have to admit, that it is much more effective to make projections about next year's salary with as much information as we have.

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  • Apollo
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    Actually Barbosa's contract is included in the $45M and you can't add in draft choice salaries without knowing where the team is picking or if they're even keeping the picks.

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  • Legalize-It
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    Apollo wrote: View Post
    One of the most respected NBA focused hoops sites in the world suggests Tim is right and so I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest he's correct and you are not:

    http://hoopshype.com/salaries/toronto.htm



    You should because how can you possibly hope to carry out a good discussion while ignoring the facts?

    Also see:

    http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=9165
    yes there are a million hypotheticals out there. but we dont need to discuss every single one...

    hoopshype doesnt add the salaries of the 2 1st round picks.

    yes they could be traded, yes barbosa could opt out, but as of right now. if ur BC, you're looking at roughly 50 milion in player salaries for 2011-2012.

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  • Apollo
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    Legalize-It wrote: View Post
    im looking at two different web sites that show $50 mil...
    One of the most respected NBA focused hoops sites in the world suggests Tim is right and so I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest he's correct and you are not:

    http://hoopshype.com/salaries/toronto.htm

    Legalize-It wrote: View Post
    i dont know where you're getting your $45 million from and at this point i really dont care.
    You should because how can you possibly hope to carry out a good discussion while ignoring the facts?

    Also see:

    http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=9165

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  • mcHAPPY
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    Legalize-It wrote: View Post
    you must be out of your mind if you think my OP was flawed... in fact i said 50 mil, your number of 53 million is even higher...
    Everything is hypothetical. Picks could be traded, Weems might get an offer elsewhere and go, Barbosa may or may not opt out.As of now the Raptors are on the hook for $45M next season, not $50M. They could be on the hook for $60 after the trade deadline. Your facts are correct guessing what will happen going forward but for what is actually owing next year, now, you are incorrect. The issue about the $45M is flexibility. Until things actually happen their salary for next season is $45M.

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  • Legalize-It
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    Legalize-It wrote: View Post
    wanted to point out that just because we got peja's $15 million coming off the books after this season, it doesnt necessarily mean we are $15 million under the cap like some would have you believe.
    Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Nowhere did I type $41.6M.

    IF Barbosa opted out the Raptors would be looking at a payroll of $37.5M. Resign for $5M a year - hypothetically - and $42.5. Sign Weems for$4-5M per season - hypothetical - and you're looking at $47.5M (average of what said) toss in 2 first round draft picks (lets say $4M and $2M), $53.5M - again hypothetical.

    I'm missing the point here though. I think it is because you're original point was flawed and others, myself included, jumped on it. Most likely this was done from the antagonizing and sarcastic posts you've made to others, myself included.

    If you put in all your hypotheticals, yes the Raptors are around $50M but no reference was made to that in your original post and as of now, the Raptors are only on the hook for $45M next season which is $5M less than they were before the Peja trade.

    Please do not reply with, "You're an idiot and should have been able to understand what I was typing eventhough my point was not made clear."
    you must be out of your mind if you think my OP was flawed... in fact i said 50 mil, your number of 53 million is even higher...

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  • mcHAPPY
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    Legalize-It wrote: View Post
    yea but you said 41.6 million... you didnt add the hypothetical of barbosa opting out, and resigning.. and you didnt add the 2 1st round picks, plus sonny weems...

    adding all that and its closer to 60 million... a 150% increase from your original projection.

    can i be any more clear ?
    Nowhere did I type $41.6M.

    IF Barbosa opted out the Raptors would be looking at a payroll of $37.5M. Resign for $5M a year - hypothetically - and $42.5. Sign Weems for$4-5M per season - hypothetical - and you're looking at $47.5M (average of what said) toss in 2 first round draft picks (lets say $4M and $2M), $53.5M - again hypothetical.

    I'm missing the point here though. I think it is because you're original point was flawed and others, myself included, jumped on it. Most likely this was done from the antagonizing and sarcastic posts you've made to others, myself included.

    If you put in all your hypotheticals, yes the Raptors are around $50M but no reference was made to that in your original post and as of now, the Raptors are only on the hook for $45M next season which is $5M less than they were before the Peja trade.

    Please do not reply with, "You're an idiot and should have been able to understand what I was typing eventhough my point was not made clear."

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  • ceez
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    is this guy for real?

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  • Legalize-It
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    Tim W. wrote: View Post
    The Raptor's payroll next season is approximately $45 million. If Barbosa opts out (and the Raptors don't re-sign him), that puts it down to about $38 million, not including rookie contracts or anything else added.

    And, again, no one is saying anyone is going to offer him more than that. Jefferson got something like $6 million less this season by opting out, but he did it in order to get the long term deal.
    im looking at two different web sites that show $50 mil... even if barbosa opts out, we HAVE 2 1st round picks and sonny weems potentially...

    i dont know where you're getting your $45 million from and at this point i really dont care.

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  • Tim W.
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    Legalize-It wrote: View Post
    that's not counting barbosa... and again you think someone is going to be offering this guy over 7.5 mill ? he'd be insane not to exercise the P/O
    The Raptor's payroll next season is approximately $45 million. If Barbosa opts out (and the Raptors don't re-sign him), that puts it down to about $38 million, not including rookie contracts or anything else added.

    And, again, no one is saying anyone is going to offer him more than that. Jefferson got something like $6 million less this season by opting out, but he did it in order to get the long term deal.

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  • Legalize-It
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    JoePanini wrote: View Post
    Barbosa would be making more money if he decides to opt out and sign a multi-year contract. If he will make a total of $7.6M if he takes on his player option, why wouldn't he want to make maybe $20-25M playing more years?
    right, even after that the total salaries of all the players is close to $60 million...

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  • JoePanini
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    Barbosa would be making more money if he decides to opt out and sign a multi-year contract. If he will make a total of $7.6M if he takes on his player option, why wouldn't he want to make maybe $20-25M playing more years?

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  • Legalize-It
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    Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Future years he is on the books for about $5M per season.
    Good deal for rotational player who is well above average NBA player.
    Good deal when average salary in NBA is $5.84M.
    we're not talking about how much barbosa is worth... we're talking about the raps salary for next season.

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  • Legalize-It
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    Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Salary for 2011-2012 is $7.6M.
    He opts out - $7.6M saved.
    Re-signed for $5M per season.
    Savings of $2.6M in 2011-2012.

    Future years he is on the books for about $5M per season.
    Good deal for rotational player who is well above average NBA player.
    Good deal when average salary in NBA is $5.84M.

    I can't make it anymore clear. Hopefully that made sense.
    yea but you said 41.6 million... you didnt add the hypothetical of barbosa opting out, and resigning.. and you didnt add the 2 1st round picks, plus sonny weems...

    adding all that and its closer to 60 million... a 150% increase from your original projection.

    can i be any more clear ?

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