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  • steps
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    nubreed000 wrote: View Post
    I think Bayless needs to start only because he's better suited to defend other PG's in the league, meanwhile Jose off the bench would give us a major upper hand against opposing second units.



    Hell no! Other than scoring what else is Bargs doing? Maybe if he was scoring 35 or 40+ the last few games...
    Bargnani's role on the team is to score. He's a scorer, at least he's doing that consistently now. His man to man defense is improving from season to season, and I doubt he will ever be a good weak side defender. I think he lacks the instincts. You expect certain things from certain players, and if everyone plays their role then the team as a whole benefits. If he provides points, and also creates shots for others simply by being a threat on the floor (the pass that leads to the pass, or spreading the floor) I think we should be happy with that. Don't get me wrong, defense should be the number one priority, and nobody is ever going to tell Bargnani "its okay not to play defense". I'm looking at this from a perspective such as, it didnt' matter how well Kapono played D (ficticious yes), he was out there to sink 3's, and it wouldn't matter if he was doing other things if his shot wasn't falling.

    I'm just thinking that he's made major strides and he deserves some sort of recognition to know that the fans have his back and notice his hard work paying off. Hopefully he gets an all-star nod which would do wonders for his confidence and career.

    Regarding Bayless ... I'm oldschool where the veteran (Calderon) should start, and Bayless should come off the bench. Putting Bayless as a starter would only take away from Jose's game. In their current roles, Joes is playing well, and Bayless will likely do the same.

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  • nubreed000
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    I think Bayless needs to start only because he's better suited to defend other PG's in the league, meanwhile Jose off the bench would give us a major upper hand against opposing second units.

    steps wrote: View Post
    The Raptors are finally buidling a basketball team. I love it. I hope they don't kill it all by bringng in a 'star' max contract with the expiring and tpe. Davis hasn't even hit the floor yet ... just wait until his shot blocking is brought into the mix! Let them grow together. Just as an aside.... Given Bargnani's increased confidence and increased consistent play, do you think its time for the "IL MAGO" chant a la "REGGIE". We should show him some love.
    Hell no! Other than scoring what else is Bargs doing? Maybe if he was scoring 35 or 40+ the last few games...
    Last edited by nubreed000; Fri Nov 26, 2010, 01:33 PM.

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  • steps
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    The Raptors are finally buidling a basketball team. I love it. I hope they don't kill it all by bringng in a 'star' max contract with the expiring and tpe. Davis hasn't even hit the floor yet ... just wait until his shot blocking is brought into the mix! Let them grow together. Just as an aside.... Given Bargnani's increased confidence and increased consistent play, do you think its time for the "IL MAGO" chant a la "REGGIE". We should show him some love.

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  • Apollo
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    Buddahfan wrote: View Post
    +1

    Apollo my friend, you are on a roll today.

    Keep it up.
    Break out the salami and cheese because this one is over!

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  • Buddahfan
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    Jordan-Drexler wrote: View Post
    Yeah, pardon my french but FUCK the young onez, I'm just happy he's a member of the raptors, and thats the only group that matters to me
    +1

    However, it is beneficial that they have built up a solid relationship among the three of them.

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  • c.e.
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    REALLY? Come on now, its only been what, a season and 10something games? You're already thinking about trading DeRozan? Check Gordon out from the Clips, he hit the sophomore jinx many times last year, and see him now. I've never seen Gordon be this explosive, especially off the dribble. Just wait till DeRozan gets all the tools together. I'm sure it will not take any where close to the time Bargnani took.

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  • Jordan-Drexler
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    heinz57 wrote: View Post
    wrong thread?
    Ha, I was just there and wondering that

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  • Jordan-Drexler
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    c.e. wrote: View Post

    Also, 4th member of the Young Gunz?!! He's two years younger than Weems and has ties with Derozan. Yes?
    Yeah, pardon my french but FUCK the young onez, I'm just happy he's a member of the raptors, and thats the only group that matters to me

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  • Multipaul
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    Bargs for All Star!

    Oh wait...

    Is this the right thread?

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  • heinz57
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    LeeZ wrote: View Post
    Never in a million years would the Nets make that trade. And the Raps shouldn't give up on DD just yet. Let's find out what we have in him first. The number one thing we could and should do for him is bring in Dave Hopla to teach him how to shoot jump shots. He goes through phases where he's semi-confident in the jumper and releases the ball quickly and in stride, but usually he delays his release (out of a lack of confidence, me thinks) and then "flings" it from behind his head. Zero chance of falling when he does that. WE NEED HOPLA!!!
    wrong thread?

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  • LeeZ
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    Never in a million years would the Nets make that trade. And the Raps shouldn't give up on DD just yet. Let's find out what we have in him first. The number one thing we could and should do for him is bring in Dave Hopla to teach him how to shoot jump shots. He goes through phases where he's semi-confident in the jumper and releases the ball quickly and in stride, but usually he delays his release (out of a lack of confidence, me thinks) and then "flings" it from behind his head. Zero chance of falling when he does that. WE NEED HOPLA!!!

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  • GameBreaker
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    So....*ahem*...is it safe to say that BC did a good job, this time? Y'know, since alot of people want/wanted his head, even jus' days ago. Lmao.

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  • Buddahfan
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    Apollo wrote: View Post
    This really is the best situation Bayless has entered into. Before now he was on two pre-established teams and he had a short leash. Not so here. He has room to breath and doesn't need to be looking over his should every time he makes a mistake.
    +1

    Apollo my friend, you are on a roll today.

    Keep it up.

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  • Apollo
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    This really is the best situation Bayless has entered into. Before now he was on two pre-established teams and he had a short leash. Not so here. He has room to breath and doesn't need to be looking over his should every time he makes a mistake.

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  • Buddahfan
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    c.e. wrote: View Post
    Bayless is clearly a stud who with playing time can develop into a solid player. He definitely has the fire and competitiveness, and is poised to be the first PG and leader of the Young Onez and Raptors. I have no doubt in my mind that when he begins to learn the "playbook" and tendencies of players, he will outplay calderon for more minutes. Agree? or disagree?

    Also, 4th member of the Young Gunz?!! He's two years younger than Weems and has ties with Derozan. Yes?
    He can more than just a solid player in my opinion. Just saying

    I am just happy that he is a member of the Raptors. That works for me.

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