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bloodyhandedgod wrote: View PostHonestly, HTF is there not a play made up for someone else receiving a pass from AB. Seems intentionally obtuse to me.
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Balls of Steel wrote: View PostI agree, you cannot have both for life is not perfect. I too, shall move on. However, the next time JT draws a play, perhaps he should consider other players. Preferably players that bring the effort on both sides of the court this time.
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@ BOS
But it still affects their worth. And I am willing to let it go. And I understand if you are not willing to. AB makes us a more deadlier threat. And no one wants to face him knowing what he has to bring. He just has to believe it.
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I agree, you cannot have both for life is not perfect. I too, shall move on. However, the next time JT draws a play, perhaps he should consider other players. Preferably players that bring the effort on both sides of the court this time.
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Balls of Steel wrote: View PostShaq was not taken out due to poor foul shooting. It was only used to negate his effectiveness once he got deep post position. In other words, the Lakers didn't have to take him out, he just never got the ball as much as he'd like to in the dying minutes / seconds of the game. You don't have to take out a player if he's a poor FT shooter, you just don't give him the ball. On games where a full court press was applied (because the game is close and both teams are in FT shooting situations), coaches tend to put the best free throw shooters in the game. That's the only time a player was taken out due to poor free throw shooting (perhaps this is why Shaq was taken out, but not all the time - he's still a defensive presence and that's where the Lakers needed him).
Let's face it, Bargs is a poor rebounder and defender and that's why he was taken out. I just don't think that your best player should be sitting at most games' critical juncture. It is what it is. If he can't defend or rebound, then how can he be considered the team's best player? My team's best player is Amir, not because of his scoring numbers but because of the intangible (non-quantifiable) factors he brings such as hustle and perseverance.
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bloodyhandedgod wrote: View Post?
Of course he was. I saw him repeatedly taken out late on the Offensive side late in certain games. Or they would not feed him as they wanted to avoid the intentional foul. Really, was this not the standard for a few years?
Let's face it, Bargs is a poor rebounder and defender and that's why he was taken out. I just don't think that your best player should be sitting at most games' critical juncture. It is what it is. If he can't defend or rebound, then how can he be considered the team's best player? My team's best player is Amir, not because of his scoring numbers but because of the intangible (non-quantifiable) factors he brings such as hustle and perseverance.
PS> Howard is a terrible FT shooter as well, but was never taken out late. He never got the late touches but the Magic sure needed his defense to close out games.Last edited by Balls of Steel; Sun Mar 6, 2011, 01:27 AM.
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Balls of Steel wrote: View PostThat's not true. The "Hack-a-Shaq" method did not cost him bench time. He wasn't taken out because he couldn't shoot free throws. His effectiveness down low was negated because of his free throw shooting. It ended costing him some touches but he was still a force down low in his days with the Lakers. Howard at times was taken out as well especially in the playoffs due to foul trouble. That's different though as Howard is an elite defensive player that got baited a couple of times, or his help defense wasn't there and he ended up with the foul. I'm talking about critical, crunch time moments and Andrea's pulled out for James Johnson for defensive purposes.
Of course he was. I saw him repeatedly taken out late on the Offensive side late in certain games. Or they would not feed him as they wanted to avoid the intentional foul. Really, was this not the standard for a few years?
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bloodyhandedgod wrote: View PostLook at the Lakers for a recent example. Due to Shaq's poor free throw shooting they often had to take him out late to avoid intentional fouls. I actually thought that it was one of the smarter moves that Triano has shown me lately. I'm fully ok with and hope it gets AB to learn how to help out better.
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Balls of Steel wrote: View PostDon't take this negatively as I'm done ranting about AB. I'm kinda glad that we lost though because it really exposes the deficiencies of this team and it's coaching staff. If the team won, the culprits that got the team in a triple overtime situation gets a free pass (heck even in losses, certain players get tea-bagged by fans that simply look for scoring as the only benchmark for a player's impact on the team). This is yet another lesson in a season full of growing pains.
PS> I like the way the Nets are evolving. They're not hung up on certain players in their roster and will move assets to get to where they need to get. I wish this franchise did the same - you know, realize things ain't working out so you move players for better assets (but I digress).
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Balls of Steel wrote: View PostSimple, the play was drawn for him and had 2 CHANCES to win the game against *ahem* Kris Humphries. Didn't drive, looked at the clock like he's Lebron then hit the front iron - twice. Fine, I'll get off his balls about his rebounding and defense in general. This time, what about his offense in late game situations? Oh and by the way, the franchise player is sitting on the bench when the team gets itself ready to defend the opponent on their last offensive possession. Yup, he's the man.
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If Bargs keep pulling this as his go-to game winning move Triano may have to look elsewhere. Problem I have is with 9 seconds you should be able to run something other than an iso, considering we don't have any iso quality players........yet.
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Toronto was a respected team in the carter davis era which shows that even though we are a canadian team in the "american" NBA we can have respect and players will want to come here but we need a franchise player and we need to have some success in the playoffs. And oh yeah Bargnani cant be anchoring our defense
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Balls of Steel wrote: View PostPS> I like the way the Nets are evolving. They're not hung up on certain players in their roster and will move assets to get to where they need to get. I wish this franchise did the same - you know, realize things ain't working out so you move players for better assets (but I digress).
Lopez was untouchable at every step of the Melo saga. If he had been included, the trade would have been done in preseason.
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