Reggie Evans wants to stay

[bloodyhandedgod]

I think we can keep Reggie pretty easily if we don't sign another center. A four big rotation is not bad and it gives us some cushion if anyone gets hurt. I don't get why everyone is worried about how much money we give him, we are in the middle of a rebuild and are probably a couple of seasons away from looking to sign any big free agents, so why not keep Reggie around. I doesn't matter how much we pay him, we have a tonne of cap and as long as it's not something ridiculous it's not a big deal. It would be different if we had someone raring to go at the back up five spot, but right now there is no reason not to keep him.

Well said. Full agreement.

PS: And no he cannot be compared to Rodman.

[CB4]

I rather see more time for Amir and Ed. I love Reggie's heart and rebounding but I feel that Amir and Ed are better players overall with much more potential going forward.

[jlongs]

I don't think we can afford him honestly. He is not part of the Raps future at $4-5M especially on a short term contract, where we don't expect much winning anytime soon. Unless we ship one of Ed/Amir, and I don't see that happening.

Do I want him to stay for cheap? Absolutely. I would love for him to be our vet big to mentor the young ones. Do I think he will turn down a few million bucks from a playoff team to stay in TO for the last years of his prime? No.

[Nine New Faces]

Who was the starting PF for the last 3 bulls titles? All he could do is rebound and play defense.

That's 2 dimensions...

Rodman doesn't get enough credit for the things he did well. He was an excellent passer who knew his team's sets and how to find people in the triangle. He was a solid finisher around the rim with either hand and even had a jumper he could call on when needed. And he was an elite defender, something Reggie certainly is not. Yes their rebounding numbers were comparable for this one single year, but keep in mind that Rodman put up his numbers on Bulls teams that featured Jordan and Pippen, two excellent rebounders for their positions; Reggie is pulling down boards alongside players like Bargs and DeRozan.

As an added bonus, did you know that Rodman's lowest WS/48 was .110 (before his last two years in the league, which hardly count at 37 and 38 years old). Reggie has never topped Rodman's lowest in his career.

They're not on the same level at all.

Look, I love the guy too, but why pay him significant money when his minutes NEED to be going to Ed Davis and Amir Johnson for the club to improve?

[hateslosing]

I think we can keep Reggie pretty easily if we don't sign another center. A four big rotation is not bad and it gives us some cushion if anyone gets hurt. I don't get why everyone is worried about how much money we give him, we are in the middle of a rebuild and are probably a couple of seasons away from looking to sign any big free agents, so why not keep Reggie around. I doesn't matter how much we pay him, we have a tonne of cap and as long as it's not something ridiculous it's not a big deal. It would be different if we had someone raring to go at the back up five spot, but right now there is no reason not to keep him.

[Employee]

That really doesn't prove anything, seeing as Rodman was one of the best rebounders and defenders to play at PF.

Oh, and Michael Jordan.

Who's Michael Jordan?

I don't think he should start either but there's tons of playoff teams throughout the years that have had one-dimensional players on their starting lineup. You only have to be really good at one thing to have a job in the NBA.

[nubreed000]

So he's a good first big off the bench for some playoff teams, but we do not have a spot for him? That makes no sense. No one here has been advocating he starts. But 16-20 minutes. Large boards and steals. Presence. And high energy.

Never said he doesn't have a spot on the Raptors, but saying that he's a starter on a playoff team is beyond ridiculous.

Who was the starting PF for the last 3 bulls titles? All he could do is rebound and play defense.

That really doesn't prove anything, seeing as Rodman was one of the best rebounders and defenders to play at PF.

Oh, and Michael Jordan.

[saints91]

Honestly, why would you move Amir to keep Reggie Evans? I love Reggie's heart, but he is not very good. He is the definition of one dimensional game. I think we should develop Amir and Ed. Let them split the time at PF.

If Reggie would accept a veterans minimum (which I doubt he would), I would keep him. He would also have to accept he is not a rotational player.

As for Amir, he is part of our future. I wasn't a fan of him last year, but he has convinced me he is a valuable piece on this team. Fair contract for his talents, young, and great personality. True team player.

I'm not sure we should put complete faith on Ed's potential and future with this team. I don't know about anyone else, but he really doesn't look to happy to be here. He looked pissed that he was drafted to Toronto, and I don't see much enthusiasm about this team. I know he has a low key, non bubbly personality, but I don't sense a good vibe that he sees himself here.


Don't get me wrong. I love the fact Reggie loves Toronto. I like the guy, but i think he just doesn't fit into the rotation. Our money should be spent on the SF and PG position. Or if we could some how get Tyson Chandler to finally come here, I would be all for that.

[Bendit]

Sorry but you don't make much sense....Reggie Evans in a 7 game series would kill the opposing PF! Imagine having to battle with Reggie for 7 games!!! and seriously, a practice player??? get outta here...come on man the dude is one of the best rebounders in the game right now!! he plays good D, and wears out the opposing player...practice player...you're retarded

Oh and one last thing....3rd or 4th big on a playoff team?....pretty sure he would be the starting PF on Orlando, or Atlanta(move Smith back to SF), or Miami (move bosh to the 5), and I'm sure there are others....Not all playoff teams have 5 all-stars! some actually don't have a good PF!

Do you really believe Reggie would start ahead of Brendan Bass and Anderson on the Magic (remember they have Howard for rebounding) or Josh Smith or Horford (who wants to be moved to pf)? What anyone suggesting Reggie should be a starter would want the team to essentially play a 4 man team on offense while it also plays 4 men on defense with Bargnani. Doesnt make sense to me...if you want this to be an improving team.

Reggie is a ferocious rebounder with a lot of intangibles like heart and toughness and mentoring skills but is quite limited (nevermind he has been injured a lot the last 2 yrs.) in other bb skills. A good guy to have around.

[Employee]

One dimensional players hurt their teams in the playoffs, plain and simple.

Who was the starting PF for the last 3 bulls titles? All he could do is rebound and play defense.

[Employee]

I wish I was half the man Reggie is.

So should you.

[bloodyhandedgod]

bahahaha!!! please stop! The guy is a good rebounder and suddenly he's an integral part of a playoff team? Go watch more basketball

He's at best the first big off the bench on SOME play off teams.

So he's a good first big off the bench for some playoff teams, but we do not have a spot for him? That makes no sense. No one here has been advocating he starts. But 16-20 minutes. Large boards and steals. Presence. And high energy.

[nubreed000]

Sorry but you don't make much sense....Reggie Evans in a 7 game series would kill the opposing PF! Imagine having to battle with Reggie for 7 games!!! and seriously, a practice player??? get outta here...come on man the dude is one of the best rebounders in the game right now!! he plays good D, and wears out the opposing player...practice player...you're retarded

Oh and one last thing....3rd or 4th big on a playoff team?....pretty sure he would be the starting PF on Orlando, or Atlanta(move Smith back to SF), or Miami (move bosh to the 5), and I'm sure there are others....Not all playoff teams have 5 all-stars! some actually don't have a good PF!

bahahaha!!! please stop! The guy is a good rebounder and suddenly he's an integral part of a playoff team? Go watch more basketball

He's at best the first big off the bench on SOME play off teams.

[Nine New Faces]

Sorry but you don't make much sense....Reggie Evans in a 7 game series would kill the opposing PF! Imagine having to battle with Reggie for 7 games!!! and seriously, a practice player??? get outta here...come on man the dude is one of the best rebounders in the game right now!! he plays good D, and wears out the opposing player...practice player...you're retarded

I'm not retarded, just realistic. Rebounding is only one aspect of the game, and while it's an important aspect, one dimensional players kill teams. I'd value him as a practice player/mentor exactly because he brings the qualities you mention; toughness, energy, work ethic. He does NOT play good D though. He plays hard, but he's usually out of position and isn't effective as a help defender. Sorry, but you're wearing rose coloured glasses on this one.

Oh and one last thing....3rd or 4th big on a playoff team?....pretty sure he would be the starting PF on Orlando, or Atlanta(move Smith back to SF), or Miami (move bosh to the 5), and I'm sure there are others....Not all playoff teams have 5 all-stars! some actually don't have a good PF!

And I stand by my claim that he'd kill his team in a seven game series. No amount of rebounds can make up for the fact that opposing defenses would funnel the ball to Reggie and force him to make plays. Good luck winning a series that way. There's a reason Orlando likes stretch 4s around Dwight Howard instead of giving Bass heavy minutes. There's a reason the Heat don't play Joel Anthony 40 minutes a game despite providing FAR better defense than Evans. As for Atlanta, Reggie at the 4 would mean Smith would have to go back to jacking up shots from distance to spread the floor. Remember how that was working out for Atlanta?

One dimensional players hurt their teams in the playoffs, plain and simple.

[Selects87]

[QUOTE=slaw;72973]Evans' last playoff series (08/09) - MPG: 7.2; FG: .222; RPG: 2.0; PPG: 1.4. Dude couldn't even get off the bench.[QOUTE]

How are these stats even relevant? That was 3 years ago man and you know that he wasn't being used correctly in Philly. Toronto tells him to go out there , focus on playing D and rebounding. Philly just saw his lack of offense and simply didn't play him.