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  • mcHAPPY
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    Bouncepass wrote: View Post
    Huh? How does having one more loss and the same number of wins put Toronto ahead of the Kings? Actually, the Kings are a half-game ahead of Toronto because they have one less loss. Based solely on strength of schedule, the Raptors seem likely to finish ahead of Sacramento, though Hollinger's Playoff Odds predict that they will finish with the same record. If that happens, it is my understanding that the Kings and Raptors would be given essentially the same Lottery odds, which would be the average of 4th and 5th place in the Lottery.
    It puts them ahead of the Kings for lottery purposes as of the current records.

    It puts them behind the Kings for standings purposes as of the current records.

    If they finish the season tied, you are correct. But the discussion was not about the end of the season, it was about right now.

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  • Bouncepass
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    Matt52 wrote: View Post
    The Raps are currently 20-53 and the Kings are 20-52. The Kings are a half game back and have a lower in percentage by .004. ESPN placement of those two teams in the standings are incorrect UNLESS they are treating their season series at 1-1 to be in TOR's favour as the Raps were +3 in the point differential.
    Huh? How does having one more loss and the same number of wins put Toronto ahead of the Kings? Actually, the Kings are a half-game ahead of Toronto because they have one less loss. Based solely on strength of schedule, the Raptors seem likely to finish ahead of Sacramento, though Hollinger's Playoff Odds predict that they will finish with the same record. If that happens, it is my understanding that the Kings and Raptors would be given essentially the same Lottery odds, which would be the average of 4th and 5th place in the Lottery.

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  • mcHAPPY
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    Tim W. wrote: View Post
    Actually, the Kings still are a half game behind the Raptors in the standing, so the mock draft is incorrect, for now. That may change, though.
    The Raps are currently 20-53 and the Kings are 20-52. The Kings are a half game back and have a lower in percentage by .004. ESPN placement of those two teams in the standings are incorrect UNLESS they are treating their season series at 1-1 to be in TOR's favour as the Raps were +3 in the point differential.

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  • Maleko
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    RaptorsFan4Life wrote: View Post
    Laws of probability says otherwise.
    Yes because every year the picks are exactly as the teams finish. Pay attention bub. "laws of probability" do not say that the fifth worst team will pick fifth. In the "laws of probability" it is more probable the team will NOT pick according totheir finish.

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  • Tim W.
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    Actually, the Kings still are a half game behind the Raptors in the standing, so the mock draft is incorrect, for now. That may change, though.

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  • Hotshot
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    Maleko wrote: View Post
    The finish does not determine where they pick. The lottery does.
    yeah..... the lottery does.......

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  • RaptorsFan4Life
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    Maleko wrote: View Post
    The finish does not determine where they pick. The lottery does.
    Laws of probability says otherwise.

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  • Raptomist
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    And with top prospects like Sullinger and maybe Barnes and Irving returning to college, an already disappointing draft gets weaker and weaker. At this rate it's going to be a hoot to follow RR when the debate is which Euro the Raptors should select from Kanter, Valanciunas, and Vesely.

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  • Maleko
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    Hotshot wrote: View Post
    The Raptors will soon start winning games like they do every year near the end.

    The Raptors are going to be picking 5th or 6th.
    The finish does not determine where they pick. The lottery does.

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  • Maleko
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    Raptors_13 wrote: View Post
    The Raps now have the 4th worst record in the league and have a 11.9% chance of winning the 1st overall pick and are on track to draft 4th overall.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/lottery2011/mockdraft
    Except in history the fourth worst record has never yielded the number one pick in 21yrs of the current format. The fifth worst has won it the most times followed by second and third worst.

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  • chrischris
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    The Raps need to shut down some players. No sense playing them hurt or giving minutes to guys that wont be around next year

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  • jd4
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    Wouldn't be surprised to see the Kings pass the Raptors. Ever since Tyreke Evans has come back, the team is playing a lot better and with a sense of purpose. Today's win against Philly, in Philly, was big. As for the Raps, I don't see them winning too many games down the stretch. Injuries are beginning to catch up to them, they look like a tired bunch, and their schedule isn't too friendly:
    Games Against Playoff Teams: Chicago, Orlando, Knicks, Philly, Miami
    Games Against Teams Still in a Playoff Hunt: Milwaukee (2 times)
    Games Against Teams Out of the Playoffs: Cleveland and New Jersey
    Back to Backs: 3 (Chicago/Orlando, Knicks/Cleveland, Nets/Milwaukee)

    Nonetheless, the lottery will be what it is. They have to hope they get the top pick or that Minnesota and Washington get the top 2 picks if they want a shot at getting Kyrie Irving. Washington won't draft Irving because they have Wall. I doubt Minnesota does either since I believe Rubio will be playing for them next year. It's going to be a big off-season for the Raptors.

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  • Raptors_
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    RaptorsFan4Life wrote: View Post
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    the thing about the nba is anything can happen. We won games against teams this season that people thought we don't stand a chance against. The kings could win 4 out of 8 of those games for all we know.

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  • RaptorsFan4Life
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    me wrote:
    Don't get happy.

    Kings Schedule wrote:
    Tue 3/29 Suns | Wed 3/30 @Nuggets | Fri 4/1 Nuggets | Sun 4/3 Jazz | Tue 4/5 @Rockets | Wed 4/6 @Spurs | Fri 4/8 @Grizzlies | Sun 4/10 @Warriors
    Raptors Schedule wrote:
    Wed 3/30 Bucks | Sat 4/2 @Bulls | Sun 4/3 Magic | Tue 4/5 @Knicks | Wed 4/6 Cavaliers | Fri 4/8 @76ers | Sun 4/10 Nets | Mon 4/11 @Bucks
    We'll at least get 2 wins (Nets and Cavs at home) can't say the same about the Kings.
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  • Raptors_13
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    I wouldn't care if they lost the rest of their games to finish the season.

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