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  • Raptor4Ever
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    grindhouse wrote: View Post
    how does teams like boston, chicago, utah, san Antonio... run more set plays than we do and we have least talent? there is a fundamental flaw in the way our teams have been coached which needs to change.
    To run set plays, you have to have skilled players with high IQ who can handle the ball and ...

    Look at the " Most Positive Impact Player" of Raptor team which is Amir Johnson !!! The guy can not dribble two feet, can not beat his man off the dribble and has passing skills of a 5 year old. you give him the ball and he does not know what to do with it. So all you can is to do pick and roll with him 5 feet from the basket or run fast breaks.

    The hustle and energy scrubs that Raptor is full of are not capable of running complicated set plays.

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  • grindhouse
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    I feel what all of you guys are saying but consider this for a second, can rebuilding a team from the ground up be left to a experience coach who doesn't know how to win?

    I like larry brown but I will not go out and say he is the end all be all of coaches but there is tons of ball movement with his teams and thats one thing that has to be a must for our team going forward cause honestly how does teams like boston, chicago, utah, san Antonio... run more set plays than we do and we have least talent? there is a fundamental flaw in the way our teams have been coached which needs to change.

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  • Raptor4Ever
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    Larry Brown is NOT the right Coach for Raptors. We need a Coach who is still passionate about the game and is willing to really push the guys.

    Will this Coach come to Toronto ? It all depends who we will have in this team. If we are planing to go a ahead with Scrubs like Amir Johnson, James Johnson and Bayless as our future starters and ... then the Answer is NO.

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  • Bendit
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    Employee wrote: View Post
    Yeah he was a pretty good PG back in the day, but there wasn't a lot of competition in the 1930's.
    Haha, but just in case there was no touche element in that post, he did play in the 70's (like Phil Jackson) and an all star albeit in the ABA.

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  • bloodyhandedgod
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    minks77 wrote: View Post
    All we need to do is get LB to coach, D'Antoni to be his assisstant with Lawerence Frank, Sell MLSE to the Buss Family, hire Jerry West as Prez, keep BC as GM and sign Nene and Ellis this off season, Dwight and CP3 next, trade up to get Kyrie in the draft. After a year with this team LB will leave and we'll bring in Phil "wins Rings" Jax and pull monkeys out our butts. Seriously, I did it in 2k11, can't be that hard in real life.

    lol

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  • Tim W.
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    Employee wrote: View Post
    Yeah he was a pretty good PG back in the day, but there wasn't a lot of competition in the 1930's.
    Ouch!

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  • Employee
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    Bendit wrote: View Post
    Another negative spoken about Brown is that he is hard on his point guards. He was a pretty good one himself in his day so he probably knows what he is talking about....but doesnt a coach adjust to his personnel? He is as stubborn as the best to come up against. DJ Augustin is the latest example. I understand he was his choice in the draft and then didnt like the way he played or that he made too many mistakes (duh). Brown leaves and DJ becomes a pretty good pg with confidence shown by Silas. Brown is now 70 and this is not an old man's job especially with a young team who might be drafting a pg in the first round.
    Yeah he was a pretty good PG back in the day, but there wasn't a lot of competition in the 1930's.

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  • minks77
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    All we need to do is get LB to coach, D'Antoni to be his assisstant with Lawerence Frank, Sell MLSE to the Buss Family, hire Jerry West as Prez, keep BC as GM and sign Nene and Ellis this off season, Dwight and CP3 next, trade up to get Kyrie in the draft. After a year with this team LB will leave and we'll bring in Phil "wins Rings" Jax and pull monkeys out our butts. Seriously, I did it in 2k11, can't be that hard in real life.

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  • slaw
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    Tim W. wrote: View Post

    My question is, what on earth would be the attraction for top notch coach to come to a team that has not one player who's even a borderline All-Star, is one of the worst defensive teams in the league and has a center who doesn't rebound or defend? Oh, and has one of the worst records in the league.

    TimW, this can't be stressed enough. And the flip side is that even if a top-notch guy wanted to come to Toronto, nothing in Colangelo's history suggest he would even consider hiring a veteran bench boss (as was pointed out above by Mango).

    There was a thread awhile ago where a number of us posted various assistant coaches around the league that might be worth a look and there is always Europe (where BC has gone before for a coach). There are plenty of good option beyond the old retreads.

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  • Tim W.
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    I have to say, I'm sick of these "let's get Jerry Sloan, Larry Brown or some other old, Hall of Fame coach" who a) wouldn't agree to coach Toronto for double their salary, and b) is so wrong for the team it's not even funny.

    My question is, what on earth would be the attraction for top notch coach to come to a team that has not one player who's even a borderline All-Star, is one of the worst defensive teams in the league and has a center who doesn't rebound or defend? Oh, and has one of the worst records in the league.

    And keep in mind that teams like the Lakers, Indiana, Atlanta, Utah, Detroit, Sacramento and possibly Houston all might have coaching vacancies this summer. All would be more attractive options than Toronto.

    Oh, and Phill Jackson ain't coming, either.

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  • Bendit
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    Another negative spoken about Brown is that he is hard on his point guards. He was a pretty good one himself in his day so he probably knows what he is talking about....but doesnt a coach adjust to his personnel? He is as stubborn as the best to come up against. DJ Augustin is the latest example. I understand he was his choice in the draft and then didnt like the way he played or that he made too many mistakes (duh). Brown leaves and DJ becomes a pretty good pg with confidence shown by Silas. Brown is now 70 and this is not an old man's job especially with a young team who might be drafting a pg in the first round.

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  • Employee
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    Terrible Idea. He hates young players, young players usually hate him. He hates to lose and isn't in to rebuilding. He'd bitch and moan to the GM to trade all the young players for washed up guys just so he can get swept in the 1st round.

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  • JoePanini
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    There was a really huge thread on this earlier in the season...

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  • Apollo
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    Yeah, Colangelo likes to promote from within the ranks.

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  • MangoKid
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    ..and let's take a look at Colangelo's history of head coaches:

    Danny Ainge 1996-1999
    Scott Skiles 1999-2002
    Frank Johnson 2002-2003
    Mike D'Antoni 2003-...
    Jay Triano

    All of them were first time head coaches in the NBA. See the trend? Sam Mitchell might be the exception to the rule, but when he was here, he was still a first time head coach.

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