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  • Apollo
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    The poor guidance of Jay Triano has the Raptors playing some of the worse ball in franchise history. He has the team surging up the inverted standings like few before him. I'm sure we're going to get a few Jay f-bombs in the traditional end of season interviews.

    The Wiz are really choking down the stretch here. I mean they're only dressing nine men right now, the tank seems to be on and they're still winning games.

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  • mcHAPPY
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    The Wizards win! The Wizards win!

    We're third worst! We're third worst!

    1a) MIN
    1b) CLE
    3) TOR
    4) WSH

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  • mcHAPPY
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    Well, with only 3 games remaining for MIN, CLE, TOR, WSH, SAC, and NJ:

    the worst the Raps can do with the ball combinations is 6th assuming they win their last 3 and NJ loses their last 3.

    the best the Raps can do is third as MIN and CLE both have 17 wins and TOR has 21.

    I hope WSH goes 3-0 over their last games and TOR goes 2-1. Go Wizards - wooo!

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  • ceez
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    You'd think my grammar and spelling would be significantly better but that's sadly not the case.

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  • ceez
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    I took journalism at Ryerson?

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  • Apollo
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    LOL Do you work for the NY Post by any chance, ceez?

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  • ceez
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    If we end up with the #1 pick Apollo said he'd take us all out for wings.

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  • Apollo
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    Standings As At Apr. 6/11

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  • mcHAPPY
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    The Raptors are now tied for second worst in the league. If the season ended today, MIN and SAC would have all their ball combinations combined and split so they would be 1.5 each in the lottery and TOR and WSH would have all the balls combined and split so they would be 3.5 each.

    A top 3 pick will make me smile.

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  • Tim W.
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    ceez wrote: View Post
    Im pretty sure most people were saying he was a top 10 pick and were shocked when the raps drafted Charlie V over him and even more shocked when he fell to our second first round pick.
    I do remember that he was projected to go higher but, quite frankly, I didn't like either of the picks. I was horrified when Babcock passed on Granger not once but twice. Even with the medical concerns, I'd rather have taken a chance on Granger than on either of those two. Of course, that was nothing to what I felt when I heard Utah had moved up to the third pick with less than what the Raptors could have offered. I've never agreed with the notion of trading down, especially if you have a top 3 pick in a good draft. Sometimes you get lucky, but most of the time you just miss out on a better player. I'd much rather get the better player than two lesser players. You don't win with depth, you win with talent.

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  • Apollo
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    That's exactly what I remember. High praises for Joey Graham and high praise for Babcock getting him there even though he "messed up" his first pick. I don't remember anybody in the media criticizing the drafting of Joey Graham when that stuff was taking place.

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  • ceez
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    Im pretty sure most people were saying he was a top 10 pick and were shocked when the raps drafted Charlie V over him and even more shocked when he fell to our second first round pick.

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  • Tim W.
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    Apollo wrote: View Post
    Job well done then Tim but you were a small minority. Also he entered the league at 23.
    Thanks, but I'm pretty sure I wasn't a small minority. I recall reading quite a few who wondered whether he was anything more than an athlete.

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  • Apollo
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    Tim W. wrote: View Post
    I thought Joey Graham was a bad pick from the get go. He was a raw 24 year old that didn't do anything particularly well. The sad thing was that I predicted that pick because Babcock had a history of being mezmorized by guys who have good combine results, and Joey was one of most athletic players in the draft. Unfortunately, he had very few skills.
    Job well done then Tim but you were a small minority. Also he entered the league at 23.

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  • Tim W.
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    Apollo wrote: View Post
    Joey Graham was projected by most to go in the top ten that year. I remember this clearly because Steven A. Smith on air gave commentary generally criticizing Babcock for getting the picks backwards. He suggested that Charlie V should have been the second pick and Joey should have been the first pick. And there was no way to tell that Joey wasn't going to get better. He was billed as a strong defender in college and had out of this world athleticism. His shot wasn't bad and his penetrating ability was excellent when he picked the right time to attack. He had all the physical tools, with the exception of IQ, to be a very good player.

    We have been patient with Davis because he's delivering right out of the gate. The fans have been split on DeMar for the second part of this year but if you go back to threads from last year and before January 2011 you'll see a different tone at times... In particular after bad games. As such I still strongly disagree.
    I thought Joey Graham was a bad pick from the get go. He was a raw 24 year old that didn't do anything particularly well. The sad thing was that I predicted that pick because Babcock had a history of being mezmorized by guys who have good combine results, and Joey was one of most athletic players in the draft. Unfortunately, he had very few skills.

    And I think what fans want to see is SOMETHING in a young player they can have hope for. The fact that Graham is barely in the NBA and Araujo didn't last 5 years tells me maybe the fans were right about them.

    As I said, I think the forum is probably not the best place to find a consensus among fans. In reality, you've only got a couple of dozen people on here. And they are generally the most vocal.

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