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  • #16
    I'd still take him if he was available at the 3rd pick though...


    • #17
      It's funny how things work out... initially I was worried that we'd have to take Williams if we got the sixth pick... then I warmed up to him and was pumped that at the very least we'd get him, then of course a bunch of guys dropped out and more euro's were being highlighted, which of course, i hadn't seen play so all my hard work scouting the NCAA tourney are pretty much all for naught. It seems that Kanter's stock has consistently risen among the posters here. It seemed like Irving and Williams were the consensus picks at 1 and 2 respectively and Kanter has gone from a possibly top 5 pick to what seems like a sure fire #3 and now a possible number #1? It'll be curious to see if his stock continues to rise after the balls fall tonight. If we have the choice of Williams vs. Kanter, I think I'm still on the Williams train. I liked what I saw. However, I'm not a pro scout and IF it's fairly certain that Kanter will be at the very least a solid 10-20 min/ game back up C then he is probably the better pick. If the worst case scenario is a back up SF or a back up C I'd rather take the C. Kanter for the win?
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      • #18
        jk1m wrote: View Post
        Williams looks to be a more athletic Boris Diaw.
        Diaw has more size and capable of playing positions 3 through 5. Plus has a better handle.

        Williams is just a better scorer.


        • #19
          joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
          I disagree with this.
          Not that there is anything wrong with Big Nasty. Dude made a living on some very good teams, (Won 6th man and an NBA Championship with Detroit.)

          But I'm not sure I ever heard Williamson described as being a 'Freakish Athlete', or as 'the best Scorer in the Country'.

          Williamson had a very good College Career at Arkansas, don't get me wrong. But to say one of the best players in the Country has 'Corliss Williamson written all over him' is a little silly, in my opinion. The guy hit SIX 3 pointers in his Entire Career. haha
          Ya, I don't see the comparison at all. If you wanted to compare Corliss Williamson to anyone it would have been a poor man's Barkley. Or maybe Rodney Rogers. Derrick Williams, if he can be compared to anyone, it would be Michael Beasley. Corliss was never very athletic, unlike Derrick. The question is not with Derrick's athleticism, but with his quickness. I have no doubt Derrick will be a decent pro. The question is whether he's got the quickness to become an elite player.
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          • #20
            Just saw this video. Gotta say he has some surprisingly good handles.


            • #21
              Check this out: Chard Ford Interviews Enes Kaner

              Describes himself as a player: Tough, Rebounder, and a winner.

              this guys arms look rediculously long. looks young still i wouldnt doubt if he still grew and inche. at this point i think i want williams or kanter, kanter might be the best player

              Check out the video

              my bad...forgot the link
              Last edited by pesterm1; Tue May 17, 2011, 03:39 PM.


              • #22
                jk1m wrote: View Post
                Just saw this video. Gotta say he has some surprisingly good handles.
                My biggest question about Williams is whether he can be a good defender in the NBA. If he can't, then I don't want him. I'm not asking him to be an elite defender, but if he doesn't have the ability to defend the 3 well, then that's a problem.
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                • #23
                  DWill is another Thaddeus Young nothing more.
                  -"You can’t run from me. I mean, my heart don’t bleed Kool-Aid."
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                  • #24
                    Enes Kanter is an outside shot now but as Tim mentioned in another thread, things really may hinge on what Cleveland wants to do with that #4 pick.


                    • #25
                      Apollo wrote: View Post
                      Enes Kanter is an outside shot now but as Tim mentioned in another thread, things really may hinge on what Cleveland wants to do with that #4 pick.
                      Jeff and a few other places on the net have talked about Toronto and Utah getting something done with 3 and 5 (Kanter, Knight)depending on if Cleveland picks Irving #1.

                      However, there is no guarantee MIN doesn't pick Kanter at 2 as he seems to fit their need best outside Irving.

                      There is also no guarantee CLE doens't swing a deal with SAC for Knight if Utah doesn't select him as Knight would look really good next to Evans and Cousins - defensive PG who can spread the floor and spot up when Evans/Counsins get their touches.


                      • #26
                        I think a whole new roster fits Minnesota's need, but you could be right, and one never knows what Kahn is going to do. I mean, did anyone expect him to take Flynn where he did, especially after drafting Rubio ahead of him? He's certainly a big wildcard.

                        I still think Toronto has a good chance of being able to move up to the 2nd or 3rd pick.
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                        • #27
                          For NBA executives in Chicago at the NBA pre-draft combine last week, seeing Enes Kanter on the court was akin to a Big Foot sighting. Kanter was a European basketball prodigy prior to coming to the United States. But since arriving here, the only actual games he and his size-16 shoes have played in were a few at Stoneridge Prep in California and in the 2010 Hoop Summit in Portland.

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                          Sam Forencich/NBAE/Getty ImagesNot many folks have seen Kanter play, but he has All-Star potential.

                          Since the NCAA ruled Kanter permanently ineligible at Kentucky for receiving impermissible benefits from a Turkish professional team, he has been a mystery man to most basketball fans. So, in anticipation of him likely being taken among the first five selections in June's NBA Draft, here's the latest scouting report:

                          Playing background
                          While Kanter hadn't been well known to many in the NBA until recently, international scouts have been following him since he burst onto the scene as a 16-year-old. He not only appeared in Euroleague games for Fenerbache at that age, but also became, arguably, the dominant big man in his age group in Europe.

                          Last spring, against a very talented Team USA front line that consisted of Harrison Barnes, Jared Sullinger, Terrence Jones and Patric Young, Kanter broke Dirk Nowitzki's Hoop Summit scoring record by dropping 34 points in only 23 minutes. He was, at times, literally a man among boys.

                          Unfortunately, Hoop Summit is still not an event that is covered by most NBA decision-makers, so the performance could be judged only on video or by word-of-mouth from their scouts.

                          Future position
                          At 6-foot-11, 260 pounds, Kanter easily has the requisite size and mobility to play power forward and, at times, center in the NBA. While power forwards in the league come in all shapes and sizes, Kanter is a throwback to the days when they operated around the basket and didn't mind throwing their weight around. Given the success that guys like Zach Randolph, LaMarcus Aldridge and Al Horford are having, teams are looking for someone like Kanter who can match up physically with them.

                          While Kanter will never be confused with a track athlete, he is surprisingly athletic for his body type and runs the floor easily for a man his size. In addition, he has pretty good lift and is a reasonably good "second jumper" off his feet.

                          Kanter was impressive at the combine because it was evident that he was in near-peak condition after spending the last few weeks at Tim Grover's ATTACK Gym. NBA teams seemed to be impressed with the work he has put in, especially after missing the entire basketball season.

                          Skill level
                          Kanter will spend most of his NBA career around the basket and, to that end, he has fundamentally sound low-post footwork. In addition, he possesses a nice shooting touch inside and can shoot the turnaround jump shot and the jump hook. Given that he is a big man who has often been double-teamed, he has a good passing aptitude and court vision.

                          What will surprise fans is how well he can shoot from the perimeter. Again, his shooting fundamentals are very sound and he will be able to be accurate out to the NBA 3-point line. I witnessed a private workout at ATTACK last week and came away impressed with that aspect of his game.

                          Kanter has always loved contact and always competed with a fiery mentality. It is a part of his basketball DNA. So, the combination of that attitude about physical play and his body type will likely keep him close to the basket most of the time. While he'll get pushed around early in his career, it shouldn't be long before the 19-year-old is dishing out as much as he is getting.

                          Although Kanter could not play for Kentucky this past season, he was tutored in the NBA game by the Wildcats' coaching staff every day. Kenny Payne, Rod Strickland and Tony Delk all played in the league and worked hard to develop Kanter's NBA game, especially Payne. How much it helps Kanter may not be quantifiable, but it adds another layer of preparation for him.

                          Best-case scenario: Al Horford
                          Before you sneeze at the comparison, remember that they are similarly built and have a similar playing style. In some ways, Kanter is ahead of the curve in comparison as he starts his NBA career two years younger than Horford.

                          Horford, who attended high school in Lansing, Mich., was not recruited by Tom Izzo and Michigan State and was, at best, considered a top-50 recruit when he signed with Florida. After averaging 10 points and almost eight rebounds in Gainesville, Horford was the No. 3 selection in the 2007 draft as a 21-year-old junior. This season, he made his first appearance in the All-Star Game.

                          Even if Kanter is not an All-Star, he has a chance to have the same career trajectory as Horford. At worst, he is a good player for Kanter to model his game after.

                          While international players are still met with skepticism by some, ultimately evaluating them is no different than evaluating a player in the Big Ten or ACC. International draft busts are not the only kind found in the first round.

                          Kanter's situation is unique in that there is a small body of work that shows a high level of potential for success in the NBA. Some NBA teams will see Kanter's situation as a crapshoot. Cleveland has three viable options with the No. 1 pick -- Kanter, Duke's Kyrie Irving and Arizona's Derrick Williams. If I were the Cavaliers, I'd analyze Kanter closely before passing on him at No. 1. I don't see him being available when they select again at No.4.
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                          • #28
                            if cleveland get irving AND kanter they'll be a hell of a force for the considerable future


                            • #29
                              I'm not sold on that. They'll still be a lottery team next season. They don't have a very good core right now. It would give them a big boost but it still wouldn't put them past what the Raptors have right now for example. Irving, Kanter and Hickson is an alright core with some big question marks. They're capped and won't be players in free agency as is this off-season and the next.


                              • #30
                                oh im sure they'll be in the lotto again next year. sorry, i didn't mean immediately.