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  • Colangelo on Fan590 - May 19

    http://sportsradiointerviews.com/201...the-nba-draft/

    What I find interesting is who he did not mention: Kawhi Leonard.

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    Matt52 wrote: View Post
    http://sportsradiointerviews.com/201...the-nba-draft/

    What I find interesting is who he did not mention: Kawhi Leonard.
    I just mentioned in the Combine thread how I saw the interview BC did with them(NBATV guys I think?), and ya know what, he didn't mention Leonard in that one either. Maybe trying to keep him on the low so he doesn't get too hyped?

    Time shall tell. Maybe he's actually just not interested
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    • #3
      heck even donatas motiejunas wasn't mentioned :P

      U guys and ur smoke screens ...lol

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      • #4
        he mentioned leonard in the one right after the draft.

        ugh he talked about vesley too much for my liking.
        @sweatpantsjer

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        • #5
          Coangelo, "and there’s a couple of dark horses who I will probably keep off the list now."
          Oh Bryan you mysterious bastard!
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          • #6
            ceez wrote: View Post
            he mentioned leonard in the one right after the draft.

            ugh he talked about vesley too much for my liking.
            Washington is very much in love with Vesely. It could be pandoring to get them perhaps to juice a trade up a spot taking who BC really wants, he pays less and perhaps steals a bit piece or 2nd rounder. Some of the crap he is saying is for the other teams, and the players he does not want to talk about too much are the ones he really wants but does not want another GM to hold over him.

            imo. What I would do.

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            • #7
              Agree totally
              @sweatpantsjer

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              • #8
                I love trying to decipher what the GMs are trying to do when they talk pre-draft. While Stu Jackson basically destroyed the Grizzlies in Vancouver, the one thing he did well was try and convince the Clippers to take Olowakandi and not Bibby at the #1 spot.

                ``I think they have to (take him),'' Jackson said. ``Can you let that go by?''
                Uh, yes. You can.
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                • #9
                  BC needs to hype Vesely up as much as possible. He's the one player, in my opinion, who could sway Cleveland into passing on Kanter. The more Vesely is seen as a big-time prospect, the more likely the Cavs see him in kind as a solution to their wing deficiency.

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                  • #10
                    I know everyone loves a good conspiracy but do you honestly think other teams have paid staff who are scouring the internet to listen to every podcast and radio interview made by other the other 29 GMs? I mean honestly think about that for a minute.

                    You're giving these guys way too much credit. The only information/posturing/smokescreens that they do are done in the privacy of personal phone calls and conference calls to eachother. Everything we hear from the media is worthless, or directed to their bosses to show they're actually doing something.
                    Last edited by ebrian; Fri May 20, 2011, 01:45 PM.
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                    • #11
                      jeff_hostetler wrote: View Post
                      BC needs to hype Vesely up as much as possible. He's the one player, in my opinion, who could sway Cleveland into passing on Kanter. The more Vesely is seen as a big-time prospect, the more likely the Cavs see him in kind as a solution to their wing deficiency.
                      Uh, you know they've got Joey Graham, right? And he's a mad dunker.
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                      • #12
                        ebrian wrote: View Post
                        I know everyone loves a good conspiracy but do you honestly think other teams have paid staff who are scouring the internet to listen to every podcast and radio interview made by other the other 29 GMs? I mean honestly think about that for a minute.

                        You're giving these guys way too much credit. The only information/posturing/smokescreens that they do are done in the privacy of personal phone calls and conference calls to eachother. Everything we hear from the media is worthless, or directed to their bosses to show they're actually doing something.
                        It's not that they're listening to everything, but news gets around. If Colangelo is talking a lot about a player, other teams are going to take an extra look. It's not a conspiracy. It's pretty much common knowledge this sort of thing happens. I've seen plenty of it over the years. One great example is when Rick Pitino was in Boston and he started questioning whether he would draft Ron Mercer, who played for him at Kentucky. Mercer, who was projected to be a top 5 pick, dropped and Pitino ended up taking him at 6. Whether Pitino badmouthing Mercer had anything to do with him dropping, it was clear that was his intention.
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                        • #13
                          Tim W. wrote: View Post
                          Uh, you know they've got Joey Graham, right? And he's a mad dunker.
                          Joey Graham?

                          Jan Vesely has 4 inches on Joey Graham. He's a much better scorer and is a better player in the post. Graham is also 28 and wasn't really any good to begin with. Useless, in other words, to a rebuilding team. Vesely is still learning and is 7 years younger. If Vesely continues to develop his jumpshot, he'll be extremely useful for the Cavs. I want to stress again the fact he's 6'11". The only reason Perry Jones got any attention was because of his height and athleticism. Vesely is basically the same, except he plays with fire. If Perry Jones was still in the draft, it wouldn't be crazy at all for the Cavs to consider taking him at the four spot - despite the presence of Joey Graham.

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                          • #14
                            Tim W. wrote: View Post
                            One great example is when Rick Pitino was in Boston and he started questioning whether he would draft Ron Mercer, who played for him at Kentucky. Mercer, who was projected to be a top 5 pick, dropped and Pitino ended up taking him at 6. Whether Pitino badmouthing Mercer had anything to do with him dropping, it was clear that was his intention.
                            That's one example in a situation where a former coach said something about a former player. Colangelo saying he thinks Vesely is pretty good means absolutely nothing. If anything, I would say Colangelo credibility of Euro scouting is questionable (see Bargnani).

                            I find it really hard to believe you guys believe in all this. It's one thing for the media, because they eat it up, spit out conspiracies, which then leads to higher readership and thus generates revenue. But that's where it should stop. The very fact that as you said "it's pretty much common knowledge this sort of thing happens" confirms it. If it's common knowledge, why would anyone bother listening or posturing?

                            Anyway, back on topic. To Jeff: I'm not saying Vesely sucks, but you have to give us a bit more than "he's basically the same (as Perry Jones), except he plays with fire" to convince us that he's a good choice. From what I've seen of his game, I'd say he could potentially be a poor man's version of a post-2006 Andrei Kirilenko.
                            Last edited by ebrian; Fri May 20, 2011, 02:43 PM.
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                            • #15
                              jeff_hostetler wrote: View Post
                              Joey Graham?

                              Jan Vesely has 4 inches on Joey Graham. He's a much better scorer and is a better player in the post. Graham is also 28 and wasn't really any good to begin with. Useless, in other words, to a rebuilding team. Vesely is still learning and is 7 years younger. If Vesely continues to develop his jumpshot, he'll be extremely useful for the Cavs. I want to stress again the fact he's 6'11". The only reason Perry Jones got any attention was because of his height and athleticism. Vesely is basically the same, except he plays with fire. If Perry Jones was still in the draft, it wouldn't be crazy at all for the Cavs to consider taking him at the four spot - despite the presence of Joey Graham.
                              I was being sarcastic, you realize.
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