2012 Draft Thursday, June 28th: Raptors select Terence Ross

[ceez]

Well apparently the Blazers are very open to dealing both their picks for players so maybe getting 2 lotto picks isn't as crazy as we all thought.

As much as BC and Casey have said they have no desire having 3 rookies next year I don't think you can pass up on a few of these dudes if you have the chance.

[ceez]

The portland lowdown Is from hoopshype btw

[slaw]

As much as BC and Casey have said they have no desire having 3 rookies next year I don't think you can pass up on a few of these dudes if you have the chance.

If the Raps get AD at #1, all of their past statements officially reach their best before date and everything changes. If not, I would be surprised to see them move into the late lottery and give up assets.

[Chr1s1anL]

I really don't see us having more than 2 rookies next season

[Chr1s1anL]

Hitting the grown running you can't do that with a roster full of rookies

[Miekenstien]

I really don't see us having more than 2 rookies next season

i can see 2 rookies starting and another if he plays himself onto the team being a deep bench player. but i cant see more than two rookies having an impact

[mcHAPPY]

Hitting the grown running you can't do that with a roster full of rookies

+1

[Maleko]

i can see 2 rookies starting and another if he plays himself onto the team being a deep bench player. but i cant see more than two rookies having an impact

And1

[mcHAPPY]

HoopsWorld.com: Who is in? Who is out?

In The Draft With An Agent

Will Barton (Memphis, So.) – 6’6, 175 lbs. Shooting Guard
Analysis: Coming off of a big year in which he averaged 18 points, eight rebounds and three assists. He showed significant growth from his freshman year and appears to have a lot of upside. Typically someone with his talent and promise would be a lock to be a first round pick, but this year’s draft is deeper than most. Projection: Late 1st – early 2nd.

Moe Harkless (St. John’s, Fr.) – 6’8, 208 lbs. Power Forward
Analysis: Stood out for an otherwise disappointing St. John’s squad, putting up 15 points, eight rebounds and 1.4 blocks a game. He’s banking on strong performances in private workouts being better for his stock than staying in school another year. Projection: Mid-to-late 1st.

Austin Rivers (Duke, Fr.) – 6’4, 200 lbs. Guard
Analysis: Surprising nobody by leaving early since it was clear that he had a pro-level skill set from early on. For him the draft process will be all about selling himself at a particular position. Right now nobody is really sure about whether or not he’s a shooting guard or point guard. Projection: Late lottery.

Dion Waiters (Syracuse, So.) – 6’4, 215 lbs. Shooting Guard
Analysis: Doubled his production from his freshman year. It would have been really intriguing to see how he did in a featured role his junior year, but he played well enough to justify leaving early. He should be able to contribute offensively right away: Projection: Late 1st round.

Maalik Wayns (Villanova, Jr.) – 6’2, 185 lbs. Point Guard
Analysis: Had a career-year across the board in a down year for the Wildcats. As impressive as his 17 points a game were, scouts are concerned about his playmaking skills and three-point shooting. He doesn’t have a lot of momentum behind him right now, making individual workouts vital. Projection: 2nd round-undrafted.

Royce White (Iowa State, So.) – 6’8, 270 lbs. Forward
Analysis: One of the most versatile players in the draft, evident by the 13 points, nine rebounds and five assists he averaged for the Cyclones. A strong outing against Kentucky’s lottery-pick-laden frontline pushed him off the fence and into the draft. Problems with anxiety, among other off-the-court issues, could hurt his stock. Projection: Mid-to-late 1st round.

Hollis Thompson (Georgetown, Jr.) – 6’8, 212 lbs. Small Forward
Analysis: Averaged a modest 12 points and five rebounds a game, but the Hoyas were a well-balanced team this year without any true stars. He’s the kind of guy who could make a roster just based off of his stellar three-point shooting ability. If he can convince teams that he can do more at the pro-level, he’ll rise. Projection: Mid-to-late 2nd round.

Renardo Sidney (Mississippi State, Jr.) – 6’10, 285 lbs. Center
Analysis: Has been associated with the NBA since before he received his high school diploma. Unfortunately, Sidney’s stock is at its lowest point. He drastically underachieved as a junior despite his vast amount of talent. He has to seriously transform his body and attitude if he wants to be anything other than a story about what could have been. Projection: Undrafted.

Testing The Waters Without An Agent

C.J. McCollum (Lehigh, Jr.) – 6’3, 190 lbs. Guard
Jared Cunningham (Oregon State, Jr.) – 6’4, 194 lbs. Shooting Guard
Damian Lillard (Weber State, Jr.) – 6’3, 195 lbs. Point Guard
Victor Rudd (South Florida, So.) – 6’7, 208 lbs. Small Forward

Undecided

Harrison Barnes (North Carolina, So.) – 6’8, 215 lbs. Small Forward
Bradley Beal (Florida, Fr.) – 6’3, 207 lbs. Shooting Guard
J’Covan Brown (Texas, Jr.) – 6’1, 197 lbs. Guard
Trey Burke (Michigan, Fr.) – 5’11, 180 lbs. Point Guard
Anthony Davis (Kentucky, Fr.) – 6’10, 220 lbs. Power Forward
Andre Drummond (UConn, Fr.) – 6’10, 270 lbs. Center
Tim Hardaway Jr. (Michigan, So.) – 6’6, 200 lbs. Shooting Guard
John Henson (North Carolina) – 6’11, 220 lbs. Power Forward
John Jenkins (Vanderbilt, So.) – 6’4, 215 lbs. Shooting Guard
Perry Jones III (Baylor, So.) – 6’11, 235 lbs. Forward
Terrence Jones (Kentucky, So.) – 6’9, 252 lbs. Power Forward
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist (Kentucky, Fr.) – 6’7, 232 lbs. Small Forward
Doron Lamb (Kentucky, So.) – 6’4, 210 lbs. Shooting Guard
Jeremy Lamb (UConn, So.) – 6’5, 180 lbs. Shooting Guard
Meyers Leonard (Illinois, So.) – 7’1, 245 lbs. Center
C.J. Leslie (N.C. State, So.) – 6’8, 209 lbs. Power Forward
Kendall Marshall (North Carolina, So.) – 6’4, 195 lbs. Point Guard
James Michael McAdoo (North Carolina, Fr.) – 6’9, 220 lbs. Power Forward
Fab Melo (Syracuse, So.) – 7’0, 255 lbs. Center
Quincy Miller (Baylor, Fr.) – 6’9, 210 lbs. Small Forward
Tony Mitchell (North Texas, Fr.) – 6’8, 235 lbs. Power Forward
Mike Moser (UNLV, So.) – 6’8, 210 lbs. Power Forward
Arnett Moultrie (Mississippi State, Jr.) – 6’11, 230 lbs. Power Forward
Otto Porter (Georgetown, Fr.) – 6’8, 205 lbs. Forward
Mason Plumlee (Duke, Jr.) – 6’10, 235 lbs. Power Forward/Center
Andre Roberson (Colorado, So.) – 6’7, 210 lbs. Small Forward
Thomas Robinson (Kansas, Jr.) – 6’10, 237 lbs. Power Forward
Terrence Ross (Washington, So.) – 6’6, 195 lbs. Shooting Guard
Josh Smith (UCLA, So.) – 6’10, 305 lbs. Center
Jared Sullinger (Ohio State, So.) – 6’9, 265 lbs. Power Forward
Marquis Teague (Kentucky, Fr.) – 6’2, 189 lbs. Point Guard
Adonis Thomas (Memphis, Fr.) – 6’6, 222 lbs. Small Forward
Deshaun Thomas (Ohio State, So.) – 6’7, 225 lbs. Small Forward
Christian Watford (Indiana, Jr.) – 6’9, 225 lbs. Forward
Jeff Withey (Kansas, Jr.) – 7’0, 235 lbs. Center
Tony Wroten (Washington, Fr.) – 6’5, 205 lbs. Guard
BJ Young (Arkansas, Fr.) – 6’3, 175 lbs. Point Guard
Cody Zeller (Indiana, Fr.) – 6’11, 230 lbs. Power Forward/Center

Staying In School

Myck Kabongo (Texas, Fr.) – 6’1, 169 lbs. Point Guard
Doug McDermott (Creighton, So.) – 6’7, 220 lbs. Small Forward
Patric Young (Florida, So.) – 6’9, 247 lbs. Power Forward
LeBryan Nash (Oklahoma State, Fr.) – 6’7, 230 lbs. Small Forward

Source: HoopsWorld.com

Who has hired an agent is the important thing to keep in mind right now. The NCAA April 10th deadline is b.s. An underclassman can still opt in to the NBA draft until April 29th. Circle that date as the one that matters.

[Nilanka]

If there's one thing we've learned this season, is that we can't exactly interpret Colangelo/Casey's words as written in stone. So although they've previously said they don't need to get much younger, things can change in a blink of an eye on draft night. If a scenario presents itself where we have potential to land both MKG (or Beal) and Marshall, I'm pretty sure Colangelo thinks about it REAL hard. Doing so might postpone the "hit the ground running" plan until 2013-14, but it'd be what's best for the franchise long-term.

[Mediumcore]

Patric Young staying back yet another year? Does he think his stock will improve?

[mcHAPPY]

Something to consider.....

A lot of people (here and elsewhere) have talked about players returning to improve their stock. Last year was the year of the returning, highly touted college player - in large part due to the NBA labour situation.


How has that worked out for these players?

Harrison Barnes - top 3 last year, 5-8 this year
Jared Sullinger - top 5 last year, 8-10 this year
Perry Jones III - top 5 last year, 8-10 this year
Terrence Jones - top 5 early last year slipped to 15-20, 10-15 this year


Players considering returning to school who are a legit top 5-10 pick (MKG, Drummond, Cody Zeller) should really consider recent history. Returning is far from a sure thing to raise one's demand next year.

[Nilanka]

Good point. These guys seem to ignore the impact of upcoming high school players next season.

[slaw]

A lot of people (here and elsewhere) have talked about players returning to improve their stock. Last year was the year of the returning, highly touted college player - in large part due to the NBA labour situation.


How has that worked out for these players?

Harrison Barnes - top 3 last year, 5-8 this year
Jared Sullinger - top 5 last year, 8-10 this year
Perry Jones III - top 5 last year, 8-10 this year
Terrence Jones - top 5 early last year slipped to 15-20, 10-15 this year


Players considering returning to school who are a legit top 5-10 pick (MKG, Drummond, Cody Zeller) should really consider recent history. Returning is far from a sure thing to raise one's demand next year.

I thought it was crazy last year and I still think it's crazy to stay in school if you're a first round pick. Let's take Corey Joseph for example. Even if he only plays 3 years in the NBA he will earn ~$3M gross. If he was making $100,000/year at a regular job, it would take him 30 years to make the same amount. Basically, he will make more in 3 years than many people make in their entire working lives. Falling from 5 to 10 can cost you millions, not to mention the one lost year of salary. A guy like Perry Jones, for example, may have lost out on $5-6 million dollars. Think about that for a second.

[Chr1s1anL]

Ive been reading up on Andre Drummond and his a really rare kind of athelete. Yeah we know he can jumnp out the jump but he doesn't move like a big. He doesn't carry himself like his 6'10" 251. He is super agile(more so than JV IMO) and has a 7-5 wingspan. His a good rebounder and has a great defensive instincts. It's goin to be hard for BryCo to pass on this guy if his still on the board. I don't automatically means the end of Andrea. I think he could be insurance for Bargs. If Bargnani doesn't impress by trade deadline we ship him out and introduce are front court of the future. I'm just really curious what Dwane Casey could do with those tools and talent at the Defensive side.