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  • I think it's just his teaching ability, along with respect for what hes accomplished. Jay and Sam were screamers who had never really won anything themselves. All Casey has to do is flash the ring and wink.
    @sweatpantsjer

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    • Yup, in a nutshell, it's Casey's communication skills combined with his career accomplishments. The man has clout.

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      • Mediumcore wrote: View Post
        I've been thinking about that...not mind controlling powers but what it is that Casey does to get so much out our boyz which Sam and Jay weren't able to do. Is it that he is able to simplify everyones roles so they know exactly what they have to do? Is it that he has a clear concise plan for the team? It's like he managed to convince everyone on the team that they are all role players and they need to stick to their role. Nobody is bigger than the team. Pretty impressive mind control I'd say.
        I think it comes down to his ability to teach and his ability to lead by example.

        I know a few posters were talking about the need for not only a coach this year but a teacher. A big part of being able to teach is getting desired results/output from the players. In getting desired results Casey has also put in consequences for those who don't perform to his expectations. Bargnani, Amir, ED, Gray, JJ, DD, Bayless, and Forbes have all been held accountable in one way or another this year.

        Regarding his leading by example, he is a dog on the sidelines. It is hard not to give 100% when you look over and see your coach not taking a play off. Matt and Jack have not been harping on this lately but earlier in the season they were going on and on about how hard the coaching staff works on the road and in preparation for games.

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        • The management must have made the decision to sit out Bargnani, Calderon , Bayless for the rest of the season. The management decided to trade Barbosa without getting suitable replacements.

          I have a feeling Casey told his remaining players to go out there and prove their worth. And they responded by giving everything and beating some big teams. The man works wonders with what he is given even if it is a bunch of D-leaguers.

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          • Matt52 wrote: View Post
            If BC thought PJ3 could play SF, I could live with that too.
            I'm back and forth about the prospect of drafting PJ3... But I feel like if BC and DC decide to take him... Then they must really believe they can coach him up... The possibility of PJ3 is exciting just because he could end up being the best player to come out of the draft.

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            • thats what i was saying. I wouldn't be angry if they take him i'd be excited to see how good he can be.

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              • AJ360 wrote: View Post
                I'm back and forth about the prospect of drafting PJ3... But I feel like if BC and DC decide to take him... Then they must really believe they can coach him up... The possibility of PJ3 is exciting just because he could end up being the best player to come out of the draft.
                I agree with that. Like I said, pick 7, 8, 9 and a future as a SF, I can live with it. If BC picks him, he must see something.

                Despite all his 'question marks', this was the predraft hyperbole on Amar'e Stoudemire who as we know BC picked:

                Notes: Amare Stoudemire has done most of his best work in "all-star" settings, dominating the Nike All-Star Camp last summer and then showing off as McDonald's All-Star after his senior season at Cypress Creek (Orlando, Fla.). Cypress Creek, however, was his sixth high school and while he has unquestionable talent, questions remain about the road he's taken to the NBA.

                Averaged 30 points, 16 rebounds and six blocks a game for Cypress Creek. He was named Mr. Basketball in the state of Florida and was a finalist for the Naismith Award. There are few players at the high school level who were able to match up with him on both ends of the floor. His scoring touch, interior moves and passing ability gives him a variety of options each time the ball lands in his hands.

                College, however, was never in the cards, not after his mother received cash from Nike's George Raveling. Still, Stoudemire should be the first high school player selected this year, most likely in the lottery by one of several NBA teams who covet his "potential" and size.

                Positives: Stoudemire is a big-time athlete, who has a knack for rebounding. He can get out and run better than most players his size and already has a typical NBA body. He's a raw athlete who scouts have fallen in love with since he started talking about skipping high school and going straight to the League.

                Negatives: The question remains, will Stoudemire pick up the nuances of the game and handle the intricacies of the NBA. Was he ruined by the system and will he be committed to become an NBA player and put the time in and work at his game. The Outside the Lines and HBO stories on Stoudemire didnt help his image.

                Summary: Stoudemire has the upside that scouts covet and he's a lock for the lottery. Everyone is always afraid they'll miss out on a potential Tracy McGrady or Kevin Garnett

                http://sports.espn.go.com/nbadraft/t...playerId=18345

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                • The majority of nba mock draft sites list Jones as playing the 4 in the nba.

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                  • MangoKid wrote: View Post
                    The majority of nba mock draft sites list Jones as playing the 4 in the nba.
                    Very true. Which is why any suggestion of BC taking Jones comes with the tag of if BC thinks he can play SF. I would not be rolling the dice on a PF at this stage in the rebuild.

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                    • MangoKid wrote: View Post
                      The majority of nba mock draft sites list Jones as playing the 4 in the nba.
                      Listed at 6-11 and 240lbs. He is only 20 and might add some bulk to play the 4. He will be wasted at 3 unless he has the skill-set of Kdurant or Peja. I cannot think of a lot of players in NBA standing at 6-10 or taller and playing SF.
                      Last edited by draftedraptor; Fri Apr 20, 2012, 11:40 PM.

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                      • draftedraptor wrote: View Post
                        Listed at 6-11 and 240lbs. He is only 20 and might add some bulk to play the 4. He will be wasted at 3 unless he has the skill-set of Kdurant or Peja. I cannot think of a lot of players in NBA standing at 6-10 or taller and playing SF.
                        Donte Greene.

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                        • How high would any of you be willing to draft Kendall Marshall? I think I would do it as high as the 8th selection, possibly 7th. AD, MKG, Drummond, Beal, TRob, Sullinger, and Barnes are the only players I might put ahead of him in terms of talent. I'd rather have him than Sullinger, Drummond and maybe even Barnes at this point.

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                          • Mack North wrote: View Post
                            How high would any of you be willing to draft Kendall Marshall? I think I would do it as high as the 8th selection, possibly 7th. AD, MKG, Drummond, Beal, TRob, Sullinger, and Barnes are the only players I might put ahead of him in terms of talent. I'd rather have him than Sullinger, Drummond and maybe even Barnes at this point.
                            I think 8 would be a big reach.

                            12 would likely be as high as I'd draft him.

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                            • Finding a Niche For: Harrison Barnes


                              Harrison Barnes bypassed the 2011 NBA Draft, and the opportunity to be a likely top five pick, to return to North Carolina for his sophomore season, giving the Tar Heels a roster loaded with NBA talent, and the consensus preseason number one ranking in most NCAA polls.

                              Barnes ended up leading his team in scoring as a sophomore and earning First Team All-ACC honors, but his season finished on a low note, shooting an atrocious 20 for 61 (33%) in the NCAA tournament, and leaving NBA scouts with a poor final impression as North Carolina lost to Kansas in the Elite Eight.

                              This marked the end of a highly scrutinized two-year college career for Barnes, who never quite lived up to the huge expectations bestowed upon him as the top overall recruit in the nation coming out of high school in 2010.


                              While Barnes' disappointing finish to the season highlighted some of the concerns NBA teams may have regarding how his game will translate to the NBA level, he's still likely to be a very high pick in this summer's NBA Draft, as he brings a quite a bit to the table, starting with his ideal physical profile for an NBA small forward prospect.

                              He has great size at 6-8 to go along with a long wingspan, and a very strong, mature frame for a 19 year old (he'll turn 20 next month). He doesn't possess elite explosiveness, but he's very smooth and fluid athletically, and should have an easier time than most rookies adjusting to the NBA from a physical standpoint.

                              As we discussed last year, Barnes' biggest strengths revolve around his excellent scoring instincts and offensive polish, effectively utilizing shot-fakes and displaying advanced footwork when catching the ball on the perimeter and in the mid-range area, which he uses along with his great size and frame, to create space to free himself for jumpers.

                              His 23.3 points per forty minutes ranked him amongst the top per-minute scorers of all wing prospects in this draft class, but he still struggled to score efficiently as a sophomore, showing many of the same issues that we highlighted last season.

                              His lack of an explosive first step prevented him from getting to the rim and creating easy baskets, and while he did get to the free throw line at a higher rate this season, he still seemed far too content settling for contested jumpers off the dribble, as he connected on an unimpressive 47% of his field goals inside the arc.

                              From 3-point range, Barnes shot a respectable 36% and shouldn't have much trouble adapting to the NBA line, but he's not yet a prolific deep shooter. He has a tendency to be a bit streaky and miss shots badly on occasion, some of which he should be able to improve on with repetition and better shot selection.

                              Another area where Barnes hasn't shown much growth is with his ability as a passer and creator for others. His comfort level as a ball-handler looks to decrease dramatically after a few dribbles, and he doesn't have the creativity or vision to find his teammates for easy baskets, as evidenced by his extremely paltry assist numbers (his 1.5 assists per-40 ranks him towards the bottom of all small forward prospects in our Top100), particularly for a player who has the ball in his hands as much as he does with the freedom to make plays.


                              On the defensive end, Barnes still shows the same promise that we noted last year, thanks to his solid physical tools and fundamentals. His size, length, and strength should serve him well defending small forwards at the NBA level, and he does a nice job moving laterally, understanding positioning, and challenging shots.
                              When looking forward to Barnes' role at the NBA level, his mature frame, scoring tools, and defensive ability give him a nice base to build on and should allow to him to contribute to an NBA team right away.

                              His inability to make plays for others, get to the rim consistently, and score efficiently likely limits his upside when compared to the high expectations he had coming out of high school when he was thought of as a potential overall number one overall pick, but he still has plenty of time to shore up his weaknesses and has considerable upside to grow into as he develops his feel for the game.

                              Barnes is an outstanding shot-maker, and should benefit from the greater spacing he'll see in the NBA, giving him more room to operate and create space for himself off the dribble. He should end up being a versatile scoring option who can catch the ball in different areas of the floor, whether it's posting up smaller players, catching the ball in the mid-range, running off screens, or being used in isolations and pick-and-rolls on the perimeter as he improves his ball-handling.

                              If he's forced to be a go-to option too early in his career, Barnes may struggle to adjust, but if he lands on a team playing for a coach who understands his strengths and limitations, and with a point guard who can get him the ball in the right spots, he has a chance for early success.

                              By all accounts, Barnes is a high character individual with a strong work ethic who plays the game with a very competitive mentality, all of which should bode well for him in the pre-draft process. While his poor play in the tournament wasn't the ideal final impression to leave on NBA scouts, he'll have plenty of time over the next couple months to win back fans amongst NBA decision-makers as he conducts interviews and workouts, giving himself a chance to hear his name called somewhere in the top ten and possibly the top five on draft night.



                              From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz1sgwOKovw
                              http://www.draftexpress.com
                              Would be the best fit for this team. At 7 he would be a steal.
                              @Chr1st1anL

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                              • Many GMs are afraid to go for a pick that is a reach because if it doesn't work out they will get crucified for making the pick a la Raf Araujo pick by Rob Babcock.

                                I'd be all for trading down in this draft for that Ty Lawson, Kenneth Faried, Kawhi Leonard type pick if BC has confidence in a player that is ready to log productive minutes for the Raptors right off the bat, but may not be a consensus top ten pick.

                                BC has mentioned in the past that the draft is a "crap shoot."

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