Its Garbage Time : Jose Calderon

[charlesnba23]

haven't forgot... been a bit busy and a bit lazy all at the same time.

I'll get one out soon.

Ok that's nice! I'm eager to read you again!

[footarez]

That was a fantastic read once again GarbageTime. Thank you.

[GarbageTime]

Hey did you forgot to do the other players? This would be really appreciated since there's nothing goin' on... Thank you!

haven't forgot... been a bit busy and a bit lazy all at the same time.

I'll get one out soon.

[charlesnba23]

Hey did you forgot to do the other players? This would be really appreciated since there's nothing goin' on... Thank you!

[er1csh3n]

Don't forget when Jose was a backup he showed consistent flashes of being a top 5 PG, i mean an undrafted PG who was considered the best international player, how would he have been persuaded to even sign with TO made me happy, but I remember strings of games of double doubles, 15-15, 20-10, all the while being extremely consistent

[Fully]

Ah, Jose. It's been quite the ride.

It's certainly been an interesting six seasons with Calderon in Toronto. He went from being a relative unknown when he arrived here to seemingly everyone's favorite Raptor by his third campaign, to a popular scapegoat over the last couple of years. He's been involved in two separate point guard controversies (which he's won out both times) and was involved in a trade last summer that went public before being nixed at the final buzzer. He's gone from underrated to overrated to underrated again all within a four year window.

I'll admit that Calderon is overpaid but it's not quite as bad as some people make it out. He's averaged roughly 11 points, 8 assists and 3 rebounds over the span of this contract, while shooting good percentages in a couple years and great percentages in others. Those aren't numbers that will blow you away but he's not exactly stealing money either. There's also something to be said about the value of professionalism, which Calderon has in abundance. Seriously, if every NBA player had a head on their shoulders like Jose's then the league would be vastly different.

The defence is what it is at this point. He's got slow feet compared to the other PGs in the NBA so he gets blown by A LOT, but he does an adequate job of getting in passing lanes and helping his teammates. If Casey's able to install a true defensive system this season then Calderon is one of the players who really stands to benefit.

I think you did a very good job of identifying Calderon's strengths/weaknesses. This was my favorite Garbage Time yet. Well done.

[Papa Burgundy]

With Jonas having such a huge strength in the pick and roll game, maybe Jose will be around long enough to help initiate a few with JV.

[GarbageTime]

I kept reading: I think a PGs top responsibility is to be a floor general and help distribute the ball. That said, you can get away with a PG not distributing if you have another passer on the team (eg. ball

I always thought the biggest downfalls of the "triangle of death" (ie. Jose, Jack, Hedo) was having 3distibuters on the floor who's best attribute (or better attributes anyways) each was distributing. (I know people will make an argument against Jack being a good passer, but I always thought he was...just not to a Jose or Kidd level though).

So what you had was three guys on the floor who SHOULD ideally have the ball in their hands (ie. bringing up the ball), yet only one could at any time. Other needs were being wasted, as none were good defenders, scorers, rebounders etc.

Its like anything else, there needs to be a balance... and I think Jose leaves you in a position to not need much in the way of other distributers/ball handlers (but i think you do always need to have a 2nd on the floor who can do it aswell, but not necesarrily to the point where thats where they are at their best). So if you have a guy like Hedo/Lebron, having a player like Jose makes a lot less sense. Having a 'scoring' PG, or a top notch 'defending PG' for example, would fit a lot better. It to me was one of the biggest reason that Hedo failed in Toronto (ofcourse lack of effort helped nothing either). I actually don't think he was wrong when he said 'ball'.

[er1csh3n]

I kept reading: I think a PGs top responsibility is to be a floor general and help distribute the ball. That said, you can get away with a PG not distributing if you have another passer on the team (eg. ball

well if you want James Johnson as your primary ballhandler I hope you're wishing for a lottery pick, but that being said I have great expectations for Jerryd Bayless, he went head to head with Derrick Rose in the athletic department, and if wasn't for his exceptionally short arms he should have been a top 5 pick....IMO

[Chrish Boss]

I kept reading: I think a PGs top responsibility is to be a floor general and help distribute the ball. That said, you can get away with a PG not distributing if you have another passer on the team (eg. ball

[GarbageTime]

Defense: Does not possess great length or lateral quickness, but will show a very good effort level and active hands. Gets in a low stance and keep his feet moving, allowing him to make a good attempt to keep up with faster players. Still, isn’t quick enough to consistently keep his man out of the lane, and will get burned fairly regularly by the better point guards in the league. Tends to show great anticipation when reaching in for steals, but will sometimes jump out of position in anticipation of a drive. Always closes out under control, but has a hard time recovering when beat. Will fight through screens. Rebounds the ball at a decent rate for a point guard. Plays a very fundamental, active brand of defense, allowing him to make up for his shortcomings at times. Can be a liability against certain matchups, though.


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i like his summary of jose's d

Good find and I think a great summary of his D.

[GarbageTime]

Unfortunately for us Jose plays a lot in the summer for Spain, giving him a lot less rest than he seems to need. Even so, I completely understand that he does so. Maybe with the lockout he'll be more rested for next season.

you are right and I never really considered that when I discussed the length of his career.

[er1csh3n]

Nice piece. I agree that you don't need a scorer as a pointguard just because there are so many good ones like that at this moment in time. Just look at the Mavericks or the Lakers. The key to winning it all has not changed in my opinion: it's defense and skilled size. The Mavericks won (offensively) by using the size of Nowitzki in the post, not by having him shooting from the perimeter as he used to do a lot more earlier in his career (of course that's only part of the story, but imo the most important part).

I'd like to see Jose used more as a shooter. If James Johnson is our starting sf, it would be nice if he would handle the ball some more, as he certainly has the ability to play as a point forward and have Jose play off screens.

Calderon is (as we all know) clearly not good enough on defense, but how many of the players who have been groomed by our team have been described as really good defenders lately? Not a lot; I think that's a knock on the organisation and the 'development program' (I thought Bosh looked a lot better on defense this year than he did with the Raptors). Hopefully that's going to change sooner than later. We desperately need a good perimeter defender who can defend multiple positions and a good frontcourt defender.

Defense: Does not possess great length or lateral quickness, but will show a very good effort level and active hands. Gets in a low stance and keep his feet moving, allowing him to make a good attempt to keep up with faster players. Still, isn’t quick enough to consistently keep his man out of the lane, and will get burned fairly regularly by the better point guards in the league. Tends to show great anticipation when reaching in for steals, but will sometimes jump out of position in anticipation of a drive. Always closes out under control, but has a hard time recovering when beat. Will fight through screens. Rebounds the ball at a decent rate for a point guard. Plays a very fundamental, active brand of defense, allowing him to make up for his shortcomings at times. Can be a liability against certain matchups, though.


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i like his summary of jose's d

[Soft Euro]

Nice piece. I agree that you don't need a scorer as a pointguard just because there are so many good ones like that at this moment in time. Just look at the Mavericks or the Lakers. The key to winning it all has not changed in my opinion: it's defense and skilled size. The Mavericks won (offensively) by using the size of Nowitzki in the post, not by having him shooting from the perimeter as he used to do a lot more earlier in his career (of course that's only part of the story, but imo the most important part).

I'd like to see Jose used more as a shooter. If James Johnson is our starting sf, it would be nice if he would handle the ball some more, as he certainly has the ability to play as a point forward and have Jose play off screens.

Calderon is (as we all know) clearly not good enough on defense, but how many of the players who have been groomed by our team have been described as really good defenders lately? Not a lot; I think that's a knock on the organisation and the 'development program' (I thought Bosh looked a lot better on defense this year than he did with the Raptors). Hopefully that's going to change sooner than later. We desperately need a good perimeter defender who can defend multiple positions and a good frontcourt defender.

Unfortunately for us Jose plays a lot in the summer for Spain, giving him a lot less rest than he seems to need. Even so, I completely understand that he does so. Maybe with the lockout he'll be more rested for next season.

[WhatWhat]

I've never really liked Calderon, even during his peak with us, and I cringed when we gave him that contract. But he's still a good guy and everything and can still be productive coming off of the bench (albeit being really, really overpaid). And I think that his defense is almost as bad as Bargnani's. And I also feel that he is going to have a rapid decline...because he hasn't really set foot in a gym and taken care of his body.