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er1csh3n wrote: View PostI know your looking at advanced stats, but Derozan has also shot well this year as well(other than 3pt %), you cannot say he didn't improve, even if it was only on the offense side. You need a star on a team, and so far Derozan has proven that.Read my blog, The Picket Fence. Guaranteed to make you think or your money back!
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NoPropsneeded wrote: View Postbut they are going up against the same competition as every other player. If u reduced lebrons or kobe's minutes they would average lower points too.Read my blog, The Picket Fence. Guaranteed to make you think or your money back!
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Tim W. wrote: View PostYes, I understand they are going against the same competition, but what you don't seem to understand is that guys like LeBron and Kobe could score 40 ppg if they really wanted to, but their teams would probably lose a lot more games. It's not about how many points you score. It's how many points you score that are within the offense, that aren't forced and that help your team win. Plus, can you do anything else besides score. As I said, you give every player in the league enough minutes and shots and I'd guess a good percentage of them would be able to average 20 ppg. But their teams would lose.
Demar DOES score within the Offense, he does so within his own abilities; and generally does not force any shots.
He puts forth effort on the defensive end, and though he may not be the Kobe-stopper we need RIGHT NOW, I think he has the tools to develop a VERY good defensive game.
I think having a guy like Jose helps control that problem a little bit as well, as he decides who gets the ball, and where they get it.
Unlike in Milwaukee, (and OKC with Westbrook) where Jennings has the ability to bring the ball up AND kill the possesion all in a matter of 7 seconds, can be VERY detrimental to the team.
Demar is not in the position, and thus he MUST wait for this shots, or work hard to get them.
He improved trumendously on his movement off the ball last year, and I expect it to only get better this season.
He has proven he can score, and do so fairly efficiently.
And while some put TOO MUCH weight on this ability, I think some put TOO LITTLE weight on it as well.
As a 22 year old, I don't think ANY of us really know what type of player he can potentially be, except for Demar. And I think he has some VERY lofty goals for himself.
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joey_hesketh wrote: View PostThough I do fully agree with the premise of your argument, I'm not sure all of this applies to Demar.
Demar DOES score within the Offense, he does so within his own abilities; and generally does not force any shots.
He puts forth effort on the defensive end, and though he may not be the Kobe-stopper we need RIGHT NOW, I think he has the tools to develop a VERY good defensive game.
I think having a guy like Jose helps control that problem a little bit as well, as he decides who gets the ball, and where they get it.
Unlike in Milwaukee, (and OKC with Westbrook) where Jennings has the ability to bring the ball up AND kill the possesion all in a matter of 7 seconds, can be VERY detrimental to the team.
Demar is not in the position, and thus he MUST wait for this shots, or work hard to get them.
He improved trumendously on his movement off the ball last year, and I expect it to only get better this season.
He has proven he can score, and do so fairly efficiently.
And while some put TOO MUCH weight on this ability, I think some put TOO LITTLE weight on it as well.
As a 22 year old, I don't think ANY of us really know what type of player he can potentially be, except for Demar. And I think he has some VERY lofty goals for himself.Read my blog, The Picket Fence. Guaranteed to make you think or your money back!
Follow me on Twitter.
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