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  • LBF
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    knickz wrote: View Post
    i'm all for tanking...anything to get harrison barnes
    as far as your siggy goes the raps were every kids and were on the tip of everyones tongue when Vince was a superstar and the best in the league.

    so, i take his comments with a grain of pepper.

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  • LBF
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    Tim W. wrote: View Post
    I love what he said. Can't agree more. Hopefully he stays with that plan.
    i'm sure he'll stay with that plan. but, that is a risk to his job seeing as it's only 2 years and not sure if that option gets picked up as much as some would like for a third unless we make the playoffs in the next two years which is no gurantee with this plan.

    everyone has a point of impatientcy.

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  • Apollo
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    Tanking guarantees nothing but less earnings for owners.

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  • knickz
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    i'm all for tanking...anything to get harrison barnes

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  • NoPropsneeded
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    slaw wrote: View Post
    That's my fear. This team has a lot of holes and no elite player(s). A core of Derozan, Davis, Val and 2012 pick is simply not good enough, unless that 2012 pick is a Kobe/Wade/Durant/Lebron type player.

    I really want this team to win some games but they are just so far away from competing that waiting another year to let some of the young guys play out make sense to me. I've waited for ten years for this team to be decent, I can wait another 2 years if need be. Playoffs in 2014!
    Your underestimating this team a bit. Ed Davis didn't really play much last year but even with those limited minutes and only playing half a season he averaged very good numbers. DeMar might have a breakout year this season, same with JB. Ed and DeMar can become all stars maybe it will happen under casey, one of them is bound to become one eventually. Lets just wait and see what happens with the lockout situation first

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  • Papa Burgundy
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    NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
    well colangelo is commited to rebuilding so i don't think he'll sign any big names. I just posted players that i feel will be attainable to fill out the roster and play some good minutes off the bench. I'm Thinkin we sign Cook and A.Gray
    Yeh, doesn't sound like he'll make a big splash ... bringing in Cook without hurting cap flexibility in a big way, is a move i'm into.

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  • Tim W.
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    slaw wrote: View Post
    That's my fear. This team has a lot of holes and no elite player(s). A core of Derozan, Davis, Val and 2012 pick is simply not good enough, unless that 2012 pick is a Kobe/Wade/Durant/Lebron type player.

    I really want this team to win some games but they are just so far away from competing that waiting another year to let some of the young guys play out make sense to me. I've waited for ten years for this team to be decent, I can wait another 2 years if need be. Playoffs in 2014!
    The Raptors need to draft a franchise player in 2012. Thankfully, not only will they have a good chance at drafting in the top five, there appears to be a number of potential elite players available. IF they are able to draft a franchise player, then they'll be in a fantastic position and a perfect situation to sign a good player. I don't know if they really want to draft ANOTHER young player in 2013. They'll most likely have all their positions filled with good, young prospects, already, and once the team has their core, then the faster you improve the better for everyone.

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  • Apollo
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    I think even if they don't land that top ten superstar type player, they have a lot talent and if they can keep them together and grow together they will become competitive. Eventually they're going to hit the jackpot in the draft. It's only a matter of time. I don't think they're going to be a playoff team in the next few seasons. That means at least two more kicks at the can. For that matter they may have already hit the jackpot. Val looks like one of the most talented players the Raptors have ever drafted. He looks like he could grow into the complete package. I know we're talking far off, as in five years from now but still. It's promising.

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  • slaw
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    Matt52 wrote: View Post
    I think he does for this season.

    Come this summer though, summer 2012, I expect him to come out swinging for the fences with cap room, another high draft pick, and the roster he has already put together.
    That's my fear. This team has a lot of holes and no elite player(s). A core of Derozan, Davis, Val and 2012 pick is simply not good enough, unless that 2012 pick is a Kobe/Wade/Durant/Lebron type player.

    I really want this team to win some games but they are just so far away from competing that waiting another year to let some of the young guys play out make sense to me. I've waited for ten years for this team to be decent, I can wait another 2 years if need be. Playoffs in 2014!

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  • NoPropsneeded
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    Papa Burgundy wrote: View Post
    Wilson Chandler is in China with no opt-out, I don't believe ... otherwise, he'd be awesome under Casey
    Daequan Cook would be great as a long range threat off the bench
    Aaron Gray could also be a good body to take up space, but maybe not an improvement over in-house guys to play minutes there
    ... although the rest are probably more "reasonably attainable" than many other lists that get posted ... they're pretty boring, and not likely to add anything, imo.
    well colangelo is commited to rebuilding so i don't think he'll sign any big names. I just posted players that i feel will be attainable to fill out the roster and play some good minutes off the bench. I'm Thinkin we sign Cook and A.Gray

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  • mcHAPPY
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    Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Did anyone hear the Colangelo interview on the Jeff Blair show (with Michael Grange)? Colangelo fully admitted to having trouble even saying the word, "rebuild", but claims he's fully committed to it, along with Stefanski. Let's hope he means it.
    I think he does for this season.

    Come this summer though, summer 2012, I expect him to come out swinging for the fences with cap room, another high draft pick, and the roster he has already put together.

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  • Papa Burgundy
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    Wilson Chandler is in China with no opt-out, I don't believe ... otherwise, he'd be awesome under Casey
    Daequan Cook would be great as a long range threat off the bench
    Aaron Gray could also be a good body to take up space, but maybe not an improvement over in-house guys to play minutes there
    ... although the rest are probably more "reasonably attainable" than many other lists that get posted ... they're pretty boring, and not likely to add anything, imo.

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  • Nilanka
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    Did anyone hear the Colangelo interview on the Jeff Blair show (with Michael Grange)? Colangelo fully admitted to having trouble even saying the word, "rebuild", but claims he's fully committed to it, along with Stefanski. Let's hope he means it.

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  • Nilanka
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    NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
    we need to grab some young free agents to fill out the roster and contribute off the bench. i have some suggestions for some free agents we should target:

    Wilson Chandler
    dajuan summers
    Jamaal Magloire
    Aaron Gray
    Daequan Cook
    Al Thornton
    Jason Collins
    CDR(Chris Douglas Roberts)
    Gary forbes

    i was only looking at young players with potential. Which is why you don't see any big names in there. Some of the players i suggested aren't exactly young but they would fill out the roster and help us in the areas that need improving, players like jaamal magloire, jason collins, al thornton.
    Chandler might be redundant if J.Johnson blossoms (but time will tell). Other than that, the only other person on this list who intrigues me is CDR...but primarily as a backup to DeRozan. But again, if Weems improves his game in Europe, there will be no need for CDR.

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  • NoPropsneeded
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    we need to grab some young free agents to fill out the roster and contribute off the bench. i have some suggestions for some free agents we should target:

    Wilson Chandler
    dajuan summers
    Jamaal Magloire
    Aaron Gray
    Daequan Cook
    Al Thornton
    Jason Collins
    CDR(Chris Douglas Roberts)
    Gary forbes

    i was only looking at young players with potential. Which is why you don't see any big names in there. Some of the players i suggested aren't exactly young but they would fill out the roster and help us in the areas that need improving, players like jaamal magloire, jason collins, al thornton.
    Last edited by NoPropsneeded; Sun Oct 30, 2011, 10:50 PM.

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