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  • planetmars
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    Shantz wrote: View Post
    I think the vast majority (perhaps even everyone) here is under the impression that one of Amir, Ed, or Bargnani needs to be traded. This has been clear since the drafting of Valanciunas due to the added frontcourt depth that this brought to the organization. To have 4 young big men who needs minutes would be too much. But do we need to make a move now? With the depth that we currently have with our bigmen does it make sense right now? Gray is out for at least another 2 weeks (and potentially more if you look at Jonas Gustaffson of the Leafs), and Magloire needs to be heavily limited in minutes as well. The only other possibility is that by moving someone then Kleiza could play minutes at the 4 spot as well.

    What I would prefer to see would be to move one of them pre-draft. But more then likely if Amir is the one who is moved it would be a trade deadline type of deal. With the way Amir is playing, along with his team-friendly contract, he could be an excellent pick-up for a contender at the deadline, and could bring back a good haul as well.
    I agree. No reason why anything has to be done this season. Of the three, I'd say Davis is the one that is being penalized the most since he plays only about 18-20 mpg, and plays with inferior talent. However no reason why anything has to be done now. However if there is an opportunity for a huge asset to come back (unconditional lottery pick, another stud), then I'm all in. But the chances of that are slim until the draft.

    However during the draft, I'd love to see some movement. Preferably Bargnani first because I think his game will be too similar to a SF that also needs the ball in his hands to make a play. I think it would be difficult to give up Amir. No one is irreplaceable, but if Amir is dealt we better get some really good long term assets in return for him. For example, I'd take Amir over Kabongo.

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  • Apollo
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    It's not a matter of need, it's a matter of building a strong, balanced team. They also have a large window to play with here. Ed has another year plus a player option before the Raptors ever really need to think hard about moving him or paying him. Amir would only have one year left on his contract then.

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  • Shantz
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    I think the vast majority (perhaps even everyone) here is under the impression that one of Amir, Ed, or Bargnani needs to be traded. This has been clear since the drafting of Valanciunas due to the added frontcourt depth that this brought to the organization. To have 4 young big men who needs minutes would be too much. But do we need to make a move now? With the depth that we currently have with our bigmen does it make sense right now? Gray is out for at least another 2 weeks (and potentially more if you look at Jonas Gustaffson of the Leafs), and Magloire needs to be heavily limited in minutes as well. The only other possibility is that by moving someone then Kleiza could play minutes at the 4 spot as well.

    What I would prefer to see would be to move one of them pre-draft. But more then likely if Amir is the one who is moved it would be a trade deadline type of deal. With the way Amir is playing, along with his team-friendly contract, he could be an excellent pick-up for a contender at the deadline, and could bring back a good haul as well.

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  • Raptorsss
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    The dude hasn't played 82 games in the league yet, and you guys are shitting on him? Relax, he'll get two double-double's in the next 10 games and you'l be singing his praises.

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  • JalenRose5
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    At this moment, trade Davis. However, it's unfair to judge his game when he gets insignificant minutes and is usually on the floor with unpredictable players like Barbosa/Bayless/Johnson. This makes it extremely difficult to have any sort of offensive notion, and he is running back frantically on defense because he doesn't know what offense is being played especially with that second unit.


    Would Michael Beasley be a good fit?? He is a big 3 and a very capable scorer! It's only a matter of time Derrick Williams becomes the starter.... Just sayin.....

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  • mcHAPPY
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    Ahhhh shucks. Another embarrassing moment. Sorry LBF.

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  • slaw
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    Premature for this discussion. Let's play 66 and see where the rotation stands at that point. No decision on this issue needs to be made until the offseason anyway. The Raps are paper thin up front right now and they can't afford to move any bigs. Worst case scenario, you come back next year with Val, Bargs, Amir and Davis up front. There is nothing necessarily wrong with that.

    Contra another poster above, I don't really care if Amir or Ed is happy being a 9th man. The Raps have them both locked up. Either guy can always leave when is contract is up or ask for a trade if he isn't happy .

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  • LBF
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    bearvon wrote: View Post
    count me in for the davis/batum swap.

    i always figured one of them had to go, and i always hoped/imagined it being for batum.

    my first thought was get rid of Bargs for the obvious reasons, but with the way he's playing...

    and while he's not playing well...im still very much into ed's upside...but im seriously questioning his heart and his desire to even be here.

    i sometimes flirt (in 2k) with it being amir, but no matter how many times Buddahfan makes me want to hate him, he really is the heart of this team and a true professional.
    *smerks**chuckles*

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  • LBF
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    Matt52 wrote: View Post
    It is not about this year. The issue is next year when JV arrives.
    http://raptorsrepublic.com/forums/sh...ht=#post108732

    beat you to it.

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  • Papa Burgundy
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    Apollo wrote: View Post
    Right, and it's a good risk to take right now given that the Raptors aren't ready for the spotlight yet.

    I'm not sure what the Raptors go looking for but let me toss out a list of names to stir the pot.
    • Nicolas Batum
    • Danilo Gallinari
    • Chase Budinger
    • Al-Farouq Aminu
    • Dorell Wright
    Disclaimer: I'm not recommending any of these just yet, just looking for reactions.
    Batum! yes
    Gallo! yes (but won't be available)
    Wright, maybe.

    My addition to this list: Landry Fields ... NYK won't have any money to throw at him. He's a great defender, a good mix of youth and maturity - and can hit open jumpers. Played a lot of SG in the NBA, but definitely big enough to play SF.

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  • bearvon
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    count me in for the davis/batum swap.

    i always figured one of them had to go, and i always hoped/imagined it being for batum.

    my first thought was get rid of Bargs for the obvious reasons, but with the way he's playing...

    and while he's not playing well...im still very much into ed's upside...but im seriously questioning his heart and his desire to even be here.

    i sometimes flirt (in 2k) with it being amir, but no matter how many times Buddahfan makes me want to hate him, he really is the heart of this team and a true professional.

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  • minks77
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    I can't see them dealing Ed while he's on his rookie contract. Too much to gain with very little risk. Besides, Amir isn't exactly bulletproof.

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  • mcHAPPY
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    matt wrote: View Post
    Do we have to trade one of the 2? I mean who do we have after Davis? Magloire and Gray are not reliable in any sense and its important to have at least one back-up big who can play, injuries can happen.
    It is not about this year. The issue is next year when JV arrives.

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  • matt
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    LBF wrote: View Post
    i think amir is more suited to come off the bench than davis and with valanciunas coming. i don't know. i definitely would trade no one this season and wait and see the entire season how all 3 do(amir,davis, and barganani
    Oh yeah completely forgot about JV. Yeah I think as it stands the decision should be once JV plays and we see if he has any potential of becoming of starter in this league.

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  • LBF
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    i think amir is more suited to come off the bench than davis and with valanciunas coming. i don't know. i definitely would trade no one this season and wait and see the entire season how all 3 do(amir,davis, and barganani

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