salary cap question

[Miekenstien]

sorry to start a new thread for this because anyone who knows the right answer can end it.

but right now there are the trade barbosa threads, which i agree with, but people are talking about matching salaries.

it is my understanding that end of year payroll cant exceed the cap limit. and a deadline deal takes more than half of barbosa' salary away. so wouldn't the take back be substantially less than face value?

i am just a bit confused because i thought that was the beauty of the rental.

[yertu damkule]

sorry to start a new thread for this because anyone who knows the right answer can end it.

but right now there are the trade barbosa threads, which i agree with, but people are talking about matching salaries.

it is my understanding that end of year payroll cant exceed the cap limit. and a deadline deal takes more than half of barbosa' salary away. so wouldn't the take back be substantially less than face value?

i am just a bit confused because i thought that was the beauty of the rental.

matching of salaries comes into play when the team(s) acquiring a player/players is over the cap (it's important to keep 'cap' & 'tax' separate & distinct). if the raps wanted to trade barbosa to a team that was over the cap, they'd have to take back a player making around the same $ (there is some leeway, it obviously doesn't have to match exactly, but it does have to be within a certain limit - under the old CBA, the two salaries had to be within 125% +/- $100K). the new CBA has different parameters, but i'm not sure exactly when they come into effect (here's a link to larry coon's fantatstic FAQ re. the CBA - bear in mind, this is the old CBA: https://webfiles.uci.edu/lcoon/cbafaq/salarycap.htm).

because the raps are under the cap, they can take on salary without having to match.

don't worry about the pro-rated aspect of salaries, since the same would apply to an incoming player; for this shortened season, all players are making less than the 'real' value of their contracts (by about 20%); it all comes out in the wash. if the raps want to trade barbosa, it may be tricky, since teams that would be interested in him are likely playoff-bound teams looking to shore up depth &/or add some scoring punch, and these teams are more than likely over the cap (meaning the raps would need to take back an almost-equivalent contract; which isn't terrible, as long as it's either expiring, or for a decent-ish player who can either be part of the rebuild or easily flipped) OR, as was mentioned in another thread, the raps could trade him to a team for their TPE. but one thing they'd need to be cognizant of in that scenario is that there is a salary floor that all teams are required to remain above, and wiping barbosa's remaning $$ off the books at the trade deadline without taking back any $ might get them there.

the trade machine on espn is useful for laying out the groundwork of trades.

[Miekenstien]

thank you

[Katman]

FYI, the trade machine is down this week as it undergoes a revision for the new cba rules

[mcHAPPY]

sorry to start a new thread for this because anyone who knows the right answer can end it.

but right now there are the trade barbosa threads, which i agree with, but people are talking about matching salaries.

it is my understanding that end of year payroll cant exceed the cap limit. and a deadline deal takes more than half of barbosa' salary away. so wouldn't the take back be substantially less than face value?

i am just a bit confused because i thought that was the beauty of the rental.

You can take on more salary in at trade but it has to be within these parameters:

Trade rules

• 2005 CBA: Teams over the cap can acquire no more than 125 percent plus $100,000 of the salaries they trade away. A team can receive up to $3 million cash in any trade.

• 2011 CBA: Taxpaying teams can acquire no more than 125 percent plus $100,000 of the salaries they trade away (same as 2005 CBA). Non-taxpaying teams (based on their post-trade salary level) can acquire up to the lesser of 150 percent plus $100,000, or 100 percent plus $5 million of the salaries they trade away. The cash a team pays or receives in trade is limited to $3 million annually.

• Who benefits? The relaxation of the salary matching requirements will facilitate player movement. The addition of the provision that allows teams to acquire up to 100 percent plus $5 million of the salaries of its traded players will also reduce "trade ballast" -- extra players thrown into a deal merely to make a trade legal. The number of crazy trades should therefore be reduced.

The limitation of cash in trades (to $3 million annually) will have a big effect on draft-pick trades. It is now common for first-round picks to be sold for up to $3 million each prior to the draft. By limiting teams to $3 million annually, these trades will be reduced.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/73...abor-agreement