I'd say he's already accomplished a lot more than Ukic
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ceez wrote: View PostI'd say he's already accomplished a lot more than Ukic
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RaptorsFan4Life wrote: View PostSteve Nash isn't going to finish career on a team that is destined to be a first round and out at best. We are rebuilding.
I've been saying this for a while but I think we should get someone like Dragic who is young, athletic, can pass and willing to play D. He is also cheap too. The only other option would be to find a way to trade for another first rounder and get Kabongo (if possible). I don't think we should be going after PGs that are about to finish their career, it'd be a waste of a development year.
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Dragic is a shooting guard playing the point, hence why sacremento deemed him expendable. I still don't understand why this forum is shitting on Bayless? Now that he's back, and hopefully healthy, people can be reminded what can he do playing 25+ minutes a night.-"You can’t run from me. I mean, my heart don’t bleed Kool-Aid."
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ceez wrote: View PostI think they should use the rest of the season to try and figure out what Bayless is. Clearly it's not a PG. What about backup SG? Cheaper version of Barbosa?
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are they comparing Bayless to Billups because they're both bald? There is no comparison.
That said he is one of the guys I would hold onto as I do not believe he will be great, although I hope I'm wrong, but with proper coaching and hard work he could be a good backup or maybe a starter if he learned to pass better, and his jumper gets better. He has the mechanics, can handle the ball and has fire in his belly so I believe his upside is Jarrett Jack which is ok.
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NoPropsneeded wrote: View Postthats where your wrong. How can you say he's not a PG. He played like what 5games this season? He's drawing comparisons to chauncey billups. I don't want us to let him go thinking he's not a PG like we did to billups. What if he ends up being great PG? he's still young and like billups he might be a late bloomer. Like CB bayless bounced around the league in his first couple of seasons. I just don't want to give up on a player and then end up figuring out that he is a better player than we thought.
He could end up being a great PG, but he could also end up like Joey Graham, Arujo and a number of other players that we invested a lot of hope in. Hope you're right though.
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Dragic didn't play for Sacramento, he backed up Steve Nash in Phoniex. Dragic's Stats are similar to Bayless's, but better turn over ratio. Bayless is not a PG, just because you can dribble the ball up the court doesn't make you a point guard. He cannot distribute the ball and he is a black hole on offence. How many times does he get picked off trying to pass the ball after he jumps. I think we should stop trying to turn him into what he is not and find a real point guard.
I don't think splurge on this position in this offseason. Wait till Jose comes off the books and then put our money into that position. I would like us to spend money either picking up a SF or a SG.
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Mediumcore wrote: View PostBut how much more do you see him accomplishing? It looks like he has a pretty low ceiling. At best a younger and slightly more athletic Jose which isn't the worst thing in the world, but why not aim a bit higher?
Raptorsss wrote: View PostDragic is a shooting guard playing the point, hence why sacremento deemed him expendable. I still don't understand why this forum is shitting on Bayless? Now that he's back, and hopefully healthy, people can be reminded what can he do playing 25+ minutes a night.
You are really underrating his passing ability. He is a good passer.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/...PaB4?year=2011
In his 10 starts he is averaging 8ish assists a game, he is also getting rebounds and shooting high %. He is a pure PG, I don't get where you guys are getting that he can only shoot.
Edit: 6.5 but some of the games especially in his rookie and 2nd season when he got a start he got like 25 min. He is still a FAR better passer than you guys are giving him credit for. I don't understand how you can even compare him to Bayless who has serious tunnel vision.
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Lets see Bayless do that.
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Last edited by RaptorsFan4Life; Mon Jan 23, 2012, 03:31 PM.
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Mediumcore wrote: View PostWhoa now. Matt Devlin of all people makes a random comment about how he hopes that Bayless could turn into a player like Billups, and you take that as Bayless drawing comparisons to Chauncey? LOL, I hope that isn't what you were referring to.
He could end up being a great PG, but he could also end up like Joey Graham, Arujo and a number of other players that we invested a lot of hope in. Hope you're right though.
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