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TSN3 wrote: View PostBatum's definitely a lot more intriguing just because he hasn't really had the consistent starter minutes that Chandler has. Everyone pretty well knows what Chandler can and cannot do at this point, which works for and against him. A part of me wants to get Batum just because his potential seems limitless, but at the same time we've already got a bunch of potential-loaded players that we're hoping will pan out (including Jonas next year). So maybe an established player is exactly what we need to help stabilize the foundation.
A contending team can't solely be built around draft picks and projects. Not all of those players are going to work out and at a certain point you have to fill some gaps with more established players (just like Chicago has). So if Chandler can be had at a reasonable price, I think you do it just to have one less question mark on the roster. I do like Batum's game though.
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CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View PostLike several posters in here, I also like Batum as well. I wonder though, if BC isn't doing a pre-emptive strike by going after Chandler for a potential bargain (given Denver's big investment in Gallinari and unlikliness/inability to match even a mid-range offer for Chandler) now, rather than get caught in an offseason league-wide bidding war for Batum, which will likely result in a team overpaying for him.
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For all those saying Batum hasn't had Starters Minutes yet: He played 31.5 minutes per game, Starting 67 games in 2010-2011.
Thats "Starters Minutes" if you ask me.
Not to mention he started in 76 games as a Rookie. Though his minutes weren't high, no one can say this kid hasn't been given a chance to prove whats he's got.Last edited by Joey; Mon Jan 30, 2012, 08:09 PM.
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joey_hesketh wrote: View PostFor all those saying Batum hasn't had Starters Minutes yet: He played 31.5 minutes per game, Starting 67 games in 2010-2011.
Thats "Starters Minutes" if you ask me.
Not to mention he started in 76 games as a Rookie. Though his minutes weren't high, no one can say this kid hasn't been given a chance to prove whats he's got.
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Brandon wrote: View PostChandler is a sub-average player. I'd like to see a story like "Raptors pursuing a bunch of franchise players". Until then the rest is just mental masturbation.
Chandler would be a good fit IMO. Finally, a piece that actually makes SENSE.
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joey_hesketh wrote: View PostFor all those saying Batum hasn't had Starters Minutes yet: He played 31.5 minutes per game, Starting 67 games in 2010-2011.
Thats "Starters Minutes" if you ask me.
Not to mention he started in 76 games as a Rookie. Though his minutes weren't high, no one can say this kid hasn't been given a chance to prove whats he's got.If Your Uncle Jack Helped You Off An Elephant, Would You Help Your Uncle Jack Off An Elephant?
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Wilson Chandler
+ Long, athletic wing with two last names and no first names. Excellent finisher.
+ Solid defender. Has athleticism to excel but must improve technique.
+ Mediocre outside shooter. Will force shots. Runs floor well. Good rebounder.
Chandler made steady progress as a scoring two-way forward, averaging 18.3 points per 40 minutes with solid percentages and rebounding. He had a miserable postseason, however, which exposed his biggest weakness: He can create jumpers, but he doesn't make many of them. Chandler shot 38.4 percent from beyond 10 feet while taking more than four a game; he also had an unusual number of tries in the 3-9 foot range and hit just 36.6 percent of them. And as a stand-still 3-point shooter he's pretty average too, making 35.1 percent.
Chandler's shot-creation ability is useful at the end of the shot clock, but his real offensive value comes in his finishing ability: He shot a blistering 73.9 percent at the rim last season. As an added plus, Chandler hits his free throws, making over 80 percent for a second straight season. Alas, that makes his inability to draw them even more frustrating. A big, athletic wing finisher like Chandler has to take more than 2.3 free throw attempts a game; Chandler was just 53rd out of 67 small forwards in free throw attempts per field goal attempt.
Defensively, Chandler was very good in Denver and not as good in New York. He was often overmatched as a small-ball 4 with the Knicks, but as a pure wing in Denver his size and athleticism was a clear asset. He also ranked third among small forwards in blocks per minute. I'm not sure he has the moxie to be a wing stopper, but he's a valuable asset at this end.
Chandler signed a deal to play in China, and according to the terms he won't be able to return to the NBA until around March. Whenever he comes back, he'll be a restricted free agent and the Nuggets will retain his rights.@Chr1st1anL
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I like what James Johnson brings to table, and I would be weary of Chandler's numbers as they were for a Knicks team that makes everyones offensive numbers look enlarged. His numbers dropped considerably after he went to denver (from 16.5 pts to 12.5) that being said I wouldn't be prepared to offer more than say a mid level exception for him. I would rather give JJ a shot this year, and see what presents itself in the draft."Defense wins championships."
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Chr1s1anL wrote: View PostWilson Chandler
+ Long, athletic wing with two last names and no first names. Excellent finisher.
+ Solid defender. Has athleticism to excel but must improve technique.
+ Mediocre outside shooter. Will force shots. Runs floor well. Good rebounder.
Chandler made steady progress as a scoring two-way forward, averaging 18.3 points per 40 minutes with solid percentages and rebounding. He had a miserable postseason, however, which exposed his biggest weakness: He can create jumpers, but he doesn't make many of them. Chandler shot 38.4 percent from beyond 10 feet while taking more than four a game; he also had an unusual number of tries in the 3-9 foot range and hit just 36.6 percent of them. And as a stand-still 3-point shooter he's pretty average too, making 35.1 percent.
Chandler's shot-creation ability is useful at the end of the shot clock, but his real offensive value comes in his finishing ability: He shot a blistering 73.9 percent at the rim last season. As an added plus, Chandler hits his free throws, making over 80 percent for a second straight season. Alas, that makes his inability to draw them even more frustrating. A big, athletic wing finisher like Chandler has to take more than 2.3 free throw attempts a game; Chandler was just 53rd out of 67 small forwards in free throw attempts per field goal attempt.
Defensively, Chandler was very good in Denver and not as good in New York. He was often overmatched as a small-ball 4 with the Knicks, but as a pure wing in Denver his size and athleticism was a clear asset. He also ranked third among small forwards in blocks per minute. I'm not sure he has the moxie to be a wing stopper, but he's a valuable asset at this end.
Chandler signed a deal to play in China, and according to the terms he won't be able to return to the NBA until around March. Whenever he comes back, he'll be a restricted free agent and the Nuggets will retain his rights.
this points to chandler being johnson. i am in china and watched him all year he seems to have shooting range to me. also takes it to the rim all the time here. might be because he isn't afraid of a 150 pound 7 footer. i will look for some a link to his stats this year but it might be in chinese.
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found it. a little surprising his 3pt shooting is only 27%.
the website is english. scroll down a little and you will see his stats this year. i am looking for some videos of him this year now.
the two wangs aren't related. lol
http://www.asia-basket.com/player.as...PlayerID=90506
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SuperRaptor wrote: View PostI like what James Johnson brings to table, and I would be weary of Chandler's numbers as they were for a Knicks team that makes everyones offensive numbers look enlarged. His numbers dropped considerably after he went to denver (from 16.5 pts to 12.5) that being said I wouldn't be prepared to offer more than say a mid level exception for him. I would rather give JJ a shot this year, and see what presents itself in the draft.@Chr1st1anL
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