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  • Balls of Steel
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    MangoKid wrote: View Post
    I'd shave my pubes and glue it to my upper lip and wear it as a mustache if we can actually get a 1st rounder for the guy..and with no salary coming back this way to boot.
    What would you do if BC gets a pair of gift certificates for the Copacabana Restaurant as I originally predicted. Instead of shaving, would you get a "Brazilian" wax instead?

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  • LBF
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    big_chris wrote: View Post
    Not as much as we'd like. A future pick 1st, protected as possible would be great, something that shows up in 3 - 5 years. Preferably the Lakers, would could be on a short downswing by the time the protections come off. I'd take on Luke Walton to make it work.
    luke walton is so bad. sometimes i wonder how the hell he stays on the lakers. even bill walton realizes how shit he is.

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  • NoPropsneeded
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    Barbosa for a pick just outside the lottery for my boi Myck Kabongo

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  • golden
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    Draft picks and cap flexibility for basically anybody on the roster. Outside of Bargs, I'm not sure we have even one potential core player (i.e. potential all-star or close to it). Lenard Barbs for a 1st rounder would be sweet.

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  • Nilanka
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    Arsenalist wrote: View Post
    Am I the only one who will be completely content if we get a top 22 pick for him?
    Count me in.

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  • mcHAPPY
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    MangoKid wrote: View Post
    I'd shave my pubes and glue it to my upper lip and wear it as a mustache if we can actually get a 1st rounder for the guy..and with no salary coming back this way to boot.
    I'm going to hold you to that.

    All I can see in my mind is that Jackass scene.....

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  • MangoKid
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    I'd shave my pubes and glue it to my upper lip and wear it as a mustache if we can actually get a 1st rounder for the guy..and with no salary coming back this way to boot.

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  • CalgaryRapsFan
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    Matt52 wrote: View Post
    With no salary coming back? No. I'd be ecstatic.
    Amen! Sign me up! (either TPE or expiring contract coming back, just nothing beyond this season)

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  • CalgaryRapsFan
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    With Billups going down, I wonder if the Clippers might be interested in Barbosa? Perhaps a 3-way deal with Mo Williams heading to that 3rd team?

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  • Apollo
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    Matt52 wrote: View Post
    With no salary coming back? No. I'd be ecstatic.
    Sign me up. Whatever they do I think it should not be at the expense of the summer cap flexiblity... Unless we're talking a bigger trade here with a starting caliber PG heading this way.

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  • mcHAPPY
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    Arsenalist wrote: View Post
    Am I the only one who will be completely content if we get a top 22 pick for him?
    With no salary coming back? No. I'd be ecstatic.

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  • Arsenalist
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    Am I the only one who will be completely content if we get a top 22 pick for him?

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  • mcHAPPY
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    CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View Post
    Thanks Matt, that's what I assumed.

    From a quick glance around the league, only Utah has a TPE large enough to absorb Calderon's contract. The only way I could see the Lakers getting Calderon would be a 3-team trade (which works on ESPN Trade Machine):
    TO TORONTO - $10.5M TPE & Lakers 1st round pick
    TO LAKERS - Calderon & 2 small TPEs
    TO UTAH - Luke Walton, either Steve Blake or Derek Fisher, and likely some combination of 2nd round pick(s) & cash (for acommodating Toronto & LA to help make the trade happen)
    *** even though it works on the Trade Machine, I'm not sure how TPE work in 3-way trades like that
    It would work the same way as a 2 team trade. The team absorbing the contract must have a TPE large enough to absorb the contract. Basically, the team not taking back any salary gets a TPE if they are over the TPE and if they are under they can renounce the TPE and take straight cap space instead (which means they would not have to trade to take salary, they could use the cap space in free agency.... remember, you can't use a TPE to sign a player).

    There are lots of trade ideas in the trade forum, by the way.

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  • CalgaryRapsFan
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    Matt52 wrote: View Post
    The rules governing the use of a TPE are not subject to the 125% or 150% rules.

    Any use of the TPE must be able to absorb the full contract being received. So the largest contract the Lakers can receive is, at most, the value of the TPE - nothing more.

    See Larry Coon's website cbafaq.com for a very detailed look at the NBA CBA.
    Thanks Matt, that's what I assumed.

    From a quick glance around the league, only Utah has a TPE large enough to absorb Calderon's contract. The only way I could see the Lakers getting Calderon would be a 3-team trade (which works on ESPN Trade Machine):
    TO TORONTO - $10.5M TPE & Lakers 1st round pick
    TO LAKERS - Calderon & 2 small TPEs
    TO UTAH - Luke Walton, either Steve Blake or Derek Fisher, and likely some combination of 2nd round pick(s) & cash (for acommodating Toronto & LA to help make the trade happen)
    *** even though it works on the Trade Machine, I'm not sure how TPE work in 3-way trades like that

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  • mcHAPPY
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    CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View Post
    I've been wondering about the TPE, compared to standard trades. I am hoping you or somebody else can help clarify.

    When trading Calderon for a player(s) you have to apply his 10% trade-kicker, then the formula for figuring out how much salary needs to come back as a minimum is essentially: [(salary + 10%) - 100,000]/1.25. The reason for this is that the team trading for him can take a max salary back of what they send out + 25%, then + $100,000 (the formula is just working backwards).

    So, given Calderon's contract of approx. $9.781M, the Raptors need to take back a minimum of $8.527M, to balance the salaries. Formula: [(9.781*1.1)-0.1]/1.25 = $8.527 approximately.

    If TPE can be applied the same way as player salaries, then the Lakers' TPE would be sufficient ($8.900M). Or does a different formula apply to TPE-based trades?
    The rules governing the use of a TPE are not subject to the 125% or 150% rules.

    Any use of the TPE must be able to absorb the full contract being received. So the largest contract the Lakers can receive is, at most, the value of the TPE - nothing more.

    See Larry Coon's website cbafaq.com for a very detailed look at the NBA CBA.

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