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  • Miekenstien
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    Puffer wrote: View Post
    I don't think he is asking for percentages. Players 1 through 10, which ones do you think might become franchise type players?

    I don't follow College ball at all so I can'rt comment myself but it is an interesting question.
    i would say davis, and mkg(if he can get some more offense) have the best chances of being franchise turner arounders.

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  • Miekenstien
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    Hugmenot wrote: View Post
    My bad. Let me rephrase.

    What is the likelihood Anthony Davis will be a franchise player?
    What is the likelihood Andre Drummond will be a franchise player?

    And same question for the next 8 players you think will be drafted 3 through 10.
    there was no guarantees that rose would be a franchise player. look at reddick (one of my favourites), had an outstanding college career, he is a role player.

    the best example i can come up with isn't in basketball but alexander daigle. if there was ever a player guaranteed success it was him. didn't work out that way though.

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  • Puffer
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    Matt52 wrote: View Post
    I'm not sure there is an objective way to quantify the question. If there was Kwame Brown would never have been taken 1, Stromile Swift would never have been drafted 2, Adam Morrison would never have been drafted 3, Drew Gooden would never have been drafted 4, etc. etc. etc.
    I don't think he is asking for percentages. Players 1 through 10, which ones do you think might become franchise type players?

    I don't follow College ball at all so I can'rt comment myself but it is an interesting question.

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  • mcHAPPY
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    Hugmenot wrote: View Post
    My bad. Let me rephrase.

    What is the likelihood Anthony Davis will be a franchise player?
    What is the likelihood Andre Drummond will be a franchise player?

    And same question for the next 8 players you think will be drafted 3 through 10.
    I'm not sure there is an objective way to quantify the question. If there was Kwame Brown would never have been taken 1, Stromile Swift would never have been drafted 2, Adam Morrison would never have been drafted 3, Drew Gooden would never have been drafted 4, etc. etc. etc.

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  • Hugmenot
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    Matt52 wrote: View Post
    In the same draft? Very unlikely. You'd be lucky to get 3 I think.
    My bad. Let me rephrase.

    What is the likelihood Anthony Davis will be a franchise player?
    What is the likelihood Andre Drummond will be a franchise player?

    And same question for the next 8 players you think will be drafted 3 through 10.

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  • mcHAPPY
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    Hugmenot wrote: View Post
    I agree that you do not pass up a higher tier talent to draft a position of need.

    Just curious, what would you rate the likelihood the best ten college players become franchise type players? I don't follow college hoop except for the odd Spiders game when my daughter has an extra free ticket so it is just for curiosity, not for the sake of argument.
    In the same draft? Very unlikely. You'd be lucky to get 3 I think.

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  • Hugmenot
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    Matt52 wrote: View Post
    Anthony Davis is going to be very special. You don't pass on a talent like him for need, in my opinion.
    I agree that you do not pass up a higher tier talent to draft a position of need.

    Just curious, what would you rate the likelihood the best ten college players become franchise type players? I don't follow college hoop except for the odd Spiders game when my daughter has an extra free ticket so it is just for curiosity, not for the sake of argument.

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  • mcHAPPY
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    The Rawth wrote: View Post
    Why bother taking AD if we have a sorted front court for next season? Sure he's an incredibly useful player, but i think to address the position needs is more important this draft.

    Unless we draft and use him to trade for the position most needed? Which now i'dsay is more at the point as JJ has been showing some stickiness towards our team. Get rid of Bayless or Calderon in off season (highly likely I'm guessing), draft a PG in MKG and let who's left out of JC or JB back up our pick?
    Anthony Davis is going to be very special. You don't pass on a talent like him for need, in my opinion.

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  • mcHAPPY
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    ceez wrote: View Post
    Players i'd move up for:

    Davis
    MKG
    Miller (his stock is going to skyrocket, just wait)

    Otherwise, if I'm picking in the 5-10 range I stick with Lamb/Beal/Kabongo
    I like Kabongo but no way would I draft him with a 5-10 pick. At this time I'd be looking to buy a draft pick or if possible get a late 1st rounder included in a deal for Barbosa or Calderon.

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  • duncan
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    If the Raps can't get Davis, then I'd do everything possible to get MKG, Thomas Robinson, or, as a last resort, Barnes.
    Those first 2 guys have everything that the Raps have always needed; grit, heart, rebounding and defense.
    Barnes you pick because maybe he can teach DeRozen how to dribble.

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  • The Rawth
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    Why bother taking AD if we have a sorted front court for next season? Sure he's an incredibly useful player, but i think to address the position needs is more important this draft.

    Unless we draft and use him to trade for the position most needed? Which now i'dsay is more at the point as JJ has been showing some stickiness towards our team. Get rid of Bayless or Calderon in off season (highly likely I'm guessing), draft a PG in MKG and let who's left out of JC or JB back up our pick?

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  • octothorp
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    For me, PJ3 is an avoid-like-the-plague sort of pick right now. Low efficiency volume shooter who has yet to have a good game against a ranked team this year. I think it's very telling with PJ3 that against ranked opponents, he's averaging just 10 points (and 5.5 rbs) in six games. In those same six games, Quincy Miller is averaging 15 pts. Jones might put together some wins that change my opinion in March. But there's nothing he's exceptional at, and when it comes to multi-tool guys, there are better options - particularly at SF - in this draft.

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  • ceez
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    Players i'd move up for:

    Davis
    MKG
    Miller (his stock is going to skyrocket, just wait)

    Otherwise, if I'm picking in the 5-10 range I stick with Lamb/Beal/Kabongo

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  • stretch
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    What if ....

    Sullinger (no. 7 on Chad Ford's board) is with out a doubt the best talent available when the Raptors pick. Do they go for yet another PF?
    Last edited by stretch; Sun Feb 12, 2012, 02:13 PM.

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  • saints91
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    I would be extremely happy with Barnes, Lamb, MKG. I'm sure one of them will be available when we pick. I don;t think PJ3 is a good option, I think with a high pick you don't pick solely on potential. We aren't lacking on size with a 7' centre and power forward. We are lacking in shooting ability, and a player that can create his own offence.

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