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  • Mapko
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    saints91 wrote: View Post
    haha, it's an example, but what if it was Luke Walton. Would you still take his contract for a first rounder?
    Yes, but for at least 10 UNPROTECTED first rounders.

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  • mcHAPPY
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    Toronto eating some Dallas cap space

    Dallas sends Marion, Beaubois, Jones, #17, and the rights to Calathes to Toronto for 2 second round picks?

    That is $10.4M off the 2011-12 salary cap number for Dallas and takes them under the luxury tax.

    More importantly, it is $12.1M off the books for 2012-13. Using the amnesty on Haywood, that leaves the Mavs with basically Dirk on the roster and under $25M in committed salary - which is supposedly what they want.


    So what do you think? Would you help Dallas help the Raptors with the above trade?

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  • mcHAPPY
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    LBF wrote: View Post
    What if someone falls to us and we draft them regardless of the position.

    Then package them for someone else. Just a thought. You never knoe.
    Sure. I was just trying to keep in the spirit of the thread and parameters Apollo had originally laid down.

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  • LBF
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    What if someone falls to us and we draft them regardless of the position.

    Then package them for someone else. Just a thought. You never knoe.

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  • mcHAPPY
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    ceez wrote: View Post
    wasn't he moved to the bench at the end of the season?
    More towards the middle and then started again once Wallace was traded.

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  • ceez
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    wasn't he moved to the bench at the end of the season?

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  • mcHAPPY
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    ceez wrote: View Post
    i dunno about portland. if they're doing a full reboot i think a contract like matthews is one they'd want to shed.
    He is a really good player, a real glue guy, 3 and D. He is very much respected in the organization. Also, not counting resigning Batum and first round picks, the Blazers are sitting on nearly $30M in cap space. Shedding money is not a worry unless they are going to offer Batum $10M and a max contract to someone else.

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  • ceez
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    i dunno about portland. if they're doing a full reboot i think a contract like matthews is one they'd want to shed.

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  • mcHAPPY
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    Cap eating? (with a draft twist)

    Personally, I'm a big Brad Beal fan. He is the player I hope is handed the Raps jersey at the press conference. A lot can happen between now and May 30 (and then June 28) but as of now it appears he will not be available should the Raptors pick where they are 'suppose' to.

    Regardless of who BC has his eyes on, lets say he wants to move up. In keeping with the spirit of this thread, what are some possible opportunities for Toronto to move up by using the approximately $12M in cap space they have available to them until July 1st. (The following assumes that the team is not picking #1).


    Charlotte:
    Toronto pick for Charlotte pick and Diop.
    Why? Charlotte can then save the amnesty for Tyrus Thomas.


    Washington:
    Toronto pick and Gary Forbes for Washington pick and Rashard Lewis ('only' $13M guaranteed for next year).
    Why? Amnesty then used on Blatche and the Wiz are working with a clean slate.


    New Orleans:
    Toronto pick for Charlotte pick and Ariza or Okafor.
    Why? Saves NOH a tonne of money, creates significant cap space to resign Gordon and another free agent, and opens minutes for development of youth.


    Sacramento:
    Toronto pick for Sacramento pick and Francisco Garcia.
    Why? Money saved for cash strapped Sacramento and helps clear the log jam on the wing. Amnesty still available for one of the worst contracts in the league: John Salmons.


    Cleveland:
    Not going to waste the pixels. They have spent $30M in the last 2 years to get more 1st round picks and they could have up to $30M in cap space this summer. They are not trading down. Next to Mark Cuban, who would a fan not love more to have as an owner of their team?


    Portland:
    Toronto pick/Ed Davis or DeMar DeRozan for Wesley Matthews and pick.
    Why? I can't justify this. Portland would not do it.


    If New Jersey gets in to the top 3:
    Toronto pick for NJ pick and Morrow or Farmar
    Why? Decent role players with just one year left each at $4M.
    Last edited by mcHAPPY; Sun Apr 29, 2012, 08:39 PM.

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  • NoPropsneeded
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    MangoKid wrote: View Post
    Why do the Sixers do that deal? It gives them absolutely nothing. Calderon and Brand both have 1 year remaining after this one with Brand having the larger contract of the two, but trading a young point guard oozing with potential just to get rid of the Brand contract is simply not worth it for them - at least not for Calderon, Amir and 2 second round picks.
    idk i just thought it would benefit the Raps. I know the sixers wouldn't do that deal, unless of course their GM was high that day, or ed stafanski convinces them to do it

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  • MangoKid
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    NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
    how bout Calderon + Amir + both 2nd round picks for Holiday and Brand ?
    Why do the Sixers do that deal? It gives them absolutely nothing. Calderon and Brand both have 1 year remaining after this one with Brand having the larger contract of the two, but trading a young point guard oozing with potential just to get rid of the Brand contract is simply not worth it for them - at least not for Calderon, Amir and 2 second round picks.

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  • NoPropsneeded
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    how bout Calderon + Amir + both 2nd round picks for Holiday and Brand ?

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  • mcHAPPY
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    draftedraptor wrote: View Post
    Brandon Jennings. History with Demar. Big time player. I would take up any contract and offer everything except for Val + current first rounder to get him.

    Again I don' think that particular trade with Philly is bad. In fact I fear we will have good competition in the unlikely event of Philly selling Holiday. I am just opposed to the idea of taking up bad contracts.
    Jennings is barely 6'1", hardly a defensive stopper at PG or SG like Holiday, and known to take highly questionable shots. His on/off court point differential with Milwaukee are startling: the Bucks are -1.9 with him on the court and +5.3 with him off. In other words they are 7.2 points better with Jennings on the bench.

    Despite that, Jennings is a player and he has considerable talent. Do you think you are getting Jennings without taking back a bad contract or not giving up JV or current first rounder? There is no way Milwaukee parts with Jennings without attaching Udrih and/or Gooden to the deal. I'd rather have one year of Brand than 4 years of Gooden at a much less salary.

    I understand not wanting to take a bad contract. However, I don't think 1 year of an overpaid Brand is a bad thing. He is 100% professional, mature, experienced, and a banger on defense. In terms of the type of players Casey is looking for, Brand would be it.

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  • Hello
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    Now I dont know the Philly team that well, and dont know how they value their players or what their future plan is, but do you think they would/we should consider a brand and holiday swap for Calderon and Bargs?

    It does not get them more cap space, but they get an upgrade from Brand in Bargs, who brings a lot of offense, something they seem to be lacking. They also get Calderon, who could either start if needed to, or could be an amazing off the bench PG playing a lot of mins behind ET (If they do move him to pg). I think Calderon would be great playing with ET and Iggy.

    In return, we get the PG of the future, young skilled with lots of potential, capable of running a team and an above average defender. We also get Brand for a big veteran player that Casey has been looking for, for a year, and hopefully we can then sign him for a lot cheaper.

    Not sure who says no to this deal as I do not know much about the Philly players.

    Also, anyway we could get Lou Williams? Maybe add Amir in the trade?
    We completely get rid of the Glut at PF, and we get an off the bench spark plug we apparently had a lot of interest in.

    Final line-ups
    Holiday/Bayless? (Dragic?)
    DD/Williams
    JJ/Klieza
    Brand/Ed
    Val/Gray
    As well as our first round pick

    Philly line-up
    ET/Calderon
    Meeks/ET
    Iggy/Young
    Bargs/Young
    Hawes

    What do you guys think?

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  • draftedraptor
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    Matt52 wrote: View Post

    A 21 year old, defensive minded, 6'4" PG who can create for himself, others, and shoot the three is a big time piece. He still has 2-3 years before he enters his prime and he has a history with DeRozan. If he was a big time player the price would be much more than 1 year of Elton Brand.


    Name another PG in the league who is 21 and has his size, ability, and upside.

    Brandon Jennings. History with Demar. Big time player. I would take up any contract and offer everything except for Val + current first rounder to get him.

    Again I don' think that particular trade with Philly is bad. In fact I fear we will have good competition in the unlikely event of Philly selling Holiday. I am just opposed to the idea of taking up bad contracts.

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