What's future
When you say ''PG of the Future''... What does future means? 2 years? 5 years? IMO, Calderon is the starting PG of the future for at least this year and next. Before then, I don't see why we should talk about a new PG.
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SuperRaptor wrote: View PostI don't know why their is no love for bayless on these forums. Everyone is a Bayless hater when all the guy does is average 20+ pts a game when he starts. People say that he doesn't pass enough but his assist numbers are probably average for a PG when he starts. He is a better ball stopper than Jose, and he is more physical. He could explode for 40+ pts in a game one day, and he is still improving.
I would rather continue developing him then spend another 3 years developing a rookie, or trading for a slightly above average PG like the ones that are out there.
A healthy Jerryd Bayless can be a huge asset for this team, if he gets like 30+ min. a game you better believe he will average 18-20 pts a game and around 5-7 assists with good defense.
P.S I love Jose too, but im not impressed with the rookie hype or the free agents available, I like our PG's.
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Matt52 wrote: View PostWall, Curry, Irving, Holiday, Lawson, and Rubio are not going to happen via free agency. They are all (minus Rubio who is locked up until 2015/16) restricted next summer and their team won't let them walk.
Lowry is locked up until the 2014/15 season at which point he is unrestricted.
Jennings is a possibility but, again, restricted.
Of all of those listed, I think Jennings would be the most likely via free agency.
Now trades are another matter but I can't see Toronto's assets parlaying in to one of those point guards without seriously setting the franchise back.
Getting one of them is a surefire a way to fill the PG role as counting on a rookie. I see acquiring one of them as a "possibility" as reasonable/probable as drafting a star. Don't aim so low.
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No love for Bayless.
I don't know why their is no love for bayless on these forums. Everyone is a Bayless hater when all the guy does is average 20+ pts a game when he starts. People say that he doesn't pass enough but his assist numbers are probably average for a PG when he starts. He is a better ball stopper than Jose, and he is more physical. He could explode for 40+ pts in a game one day, and he is still improving.
I would rather continue developing him then spend another 3 years developing a rookie, or trading for a slightly above average PG like the ones that are out there.
A healthy Jerryd Bayless can be a huge asset for this team, if he gets like 30+ min. a game you better believe he will average 18-20 pts a game and around 5-7 assists with good defense.
P.S I love Jose too, but im not impressed with the rookie hype or the free agents available, I like our PG's.
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I think the best way for us to not give up good assets is by draft, first of all because we can grab a cheap player on a rookie contract, who may be able to develop into a good guard in the league. If we don't strike, we don't let up a large sum of cap, or assets for a player who doesn't become who we want overtime. Who can be amnestied or traded for a pick or etc, etc.
Bryan Colangelo hasn't been the best at bringing in players from the free agency i.e Turkoglu. He was the best in the class of free agents, but we ended up over-paying and the rest is history.
I think trade is the second best option, but like I said, we could be giving up assets for another player who won't perform, not saying they won't though.
IMO, the draft is the smartest and most convenient. Trade may give up assets that receive a player that won't work, and with the free agency we could go through another Turk type situation.
BUT, there are the positives of the two, but I don't need to mention them because we've seen what good trades do to teams. I.e Denver Nuggets, & we all know about the free agency positives when made. I.e Miami HeatLast edited by ReubenJRD; Thu Mar 8, 2012, 09:51 PM.
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Matt52 wrote: View PostHere is a thought I had today: Nick Calathes.
DraftExpress lists his best case as Jose Calderon and his worst case as Sarunas Jasikevicius - not bad company.
The thing with our point guard now is that, worst case scenario, he's still Jose Calderon.
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I don't see the Calathes/D Will comparison. I know it was a statistical comparison but they are very different players with Williams much more athletic. Calathes will be a NBA player sooner rather than later but I think he will get burnt by Rondo types.
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jimmie wrote: View PostA. Sign a FA in 2013-14 (or trade before they become FAs). There's a ton of guys who could step in immediately: Wall, Curry, Irving, Holiday, Lawson, Jennings, Rubio, Lowry.
B. In the meantime, draft a PG this summer if they get a 2nd 1st-rounder. Ride with Jose in 2012-13 and hope you got lucky and the kid is ready for 2013-14. Do this whether you do A or not.
Lowry is locked up until the 2014/15 season at which point he is unrestricted.
Jennings is a possibility but, again, restricted.
Of all of those listed, I think Jennings would be the most likely via free agency.
Now trades are another matter but I can't see Toronto's assets parlaying in to one of those point guards without seriously setting the franchise back.
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A. Sign a FA in 2013-14 (or trade before they become FAs). There's a ton of guys who could step in immediately: Wall, Curry, Irving, Holiday, Lawson, Jennings, Rubio, Lowry.
B. In the meantime, draft a PG this summer if they get a 2nd 1st-rounder. Ride with Jose in 2012-13 and hope you got lucky and the kid is ready for 2013-14. Do this whether you do A or not.
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Draft. Lillard, Marshall, or Kabongo I'm totally fine with.
As much as Marquis Teague has an NBA game, he's just another Jerryd Bayless. Shooting guard in a point guard's body.
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i would like it to be kabongo as well. great story. augustin is a nice point guard. i would have said felton last year but he sucked a lot this year.
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Matt52 wrote: View PostHere is a thought I had today: Nick Calathes. I read his name in a chat on HoopsWorld.com and I realized I had totally forgot about him (by the way, Dallas owns his draft rights).
For those of you who don't know who he is, he played for the Florida Gators his freshman and sophomore years in '07/08 and '08/09. He used his Greece family background and, with his Greek passport, gave up his junior and senior years at Florida to go professional in Greece.
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I remember him, actually. We could have a Florida backcourt in 12/13 WINK
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Ya, I like some of the guys in this years draft as well. I hope we can get another pick.
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