Lin to the Raptors a good idea? Lin Raptors Plan B? (168)

[Nilanka]

He didn't put up nice assists over a stretch; over the whole season, Bayless was a more effecient 'Quarterback' than Jeremy Lin.

And with the amount of shots Lin took, and turnovers he gave away, I wouldn't say he's really 'Pass First' or a 'Natural' PG.

Natural Point Guards don't turn the ball over 10 times a game.

You're grossly exaggerating Lin's turnovers. In the last 26 games he played (all over 22 minutes of court time), Lin averaged 4.5 turnovers per game.

Lin took shots because he had to. He wouldn't be jacking up that many shots under normal circumstances. But when your best teammate is Landry Fields, taking 20 shots isn't exactly a problem....especially when it results in wins.

Bayless is not a point guard, period. Casey knows it. Colangelo knows it. The only one who doesn't realize it, is Bayless.

[BallaBalla]

I don't agree with the Joey Graham comparisons. Yes, Graham did put together a good stretch of games for us, but he didn't single-handedly win games for a team that had trouble winning games without him. Big difference.

IMO, Lin's 2 week stretch of play was more important/noteworthy than Bargnani's 13-game stretch, because the Knicks were actually winning games.

Lin definitely has holes in his game, but he's still young, and has the basketball IQ (as well as academic IQ, lol) to figure things out. I'm not necessarily advocating overpaying for his services in Toronto, but I'm simply speaking against the notion that his 15 minutes of fame is up. He's going to be a good PG in this league, provided that he's treated like a project.

I'm sorry I just don't agree. Joey Graham was averaging a double double in more meaningful games that had playoff implications. But nevertheless, the point is whether or not the hype was justified and why Joey Graham's stretch, or anyone else's for that matter, isn't as famous. Jeremy Lin is just another guy, but he plays for the Knicks so he became a story. Joey Graham played for the raptors and that's why he didn't. Pretending that this does not have to do with the media is completely unjustifiable.

[badbob]

I would look at getting Lin but not at all costs!!!! It would be very good for marketing with all the asian people in Toronto. I remember going to the Raptor game when New York was playing and I couldn't believe the number of people who were there just to cheer for Lin and not there to cheer for the Raptor's. Can you imagine if he was playing for the Raptor's what an attendence there would be cheering for both Lin and the Raptor's!!!

[NoPropsneeded]

you should compare our rosters because Jay Bay is a drive and kick PG like Sessions. He needs guys to cut and spot up for 3 and we barely have any players that do that. Right now the talent between the Raptors and Knicks is significantly different with the Knicks having more. Next Season, if Bayless is retained, we'll have more talent and, as dwane casey stated, a fast paced offense. I'd rather bayless run a fast run and gun offense because he fast as shit and he can run with the best of em.

[planetmars]

I wouldn't want either Lin or Bayless on the team next year... however if I had to choose between the two, I'd pick Lin and the only reason would be because I want my PG to be good at the pick and roll - and IMO, Lin is far superior at that then Bayless is.

[Joey]

I've seen enough of Bayless over the past 2 seasons to know that "quarterbacking" does not come natural to him. He did put up decent assist numbers during a stretch, but I still can't say with any confidence that he was getting players the ball in the best position to score. He's not a natural PG, and I don't believe there are any numbers that would convince me otherwise.

As for Lin, I've seen far fewer of his games compared to Bayless, so I admit this isn't a fair assessment. But from I have seen of Lin, he is a natural PG.

He didn't put up nice assists over a stretch; over the whole season, Bayless was a more effecient 'Quarterback' than Jeremy Lin.

And with the amount of shots Lin took, and turnovers he gave away, I wouldn't say he's really 'Pass First' or a 'Natural' PG.

Natural Point Guards don't turn the ball over 10 times a game.

[Puffer]

I've seen enough of Bayless over the past 2 seasons to know that "quarterbacking" does not come natural to him. He did put up decent assist numbers during a stretch, but I still can't say with any confidence that he was getting players the ball in the best position to score. He's not a natural PG, and I don't believe there are any numbers that would convince me otherwise....

No one has been harder on Bayless than myself (well...actually some real mean guys have) but he showed me that it is possible he could learn to play the PG position as a team quarterback, as opposed to simply a high scoring player who also has the job of bringing the ball down the floor after the team inbounds.

I saw good assist numbers that were actually well placed assists. All I needed to see was the ability to do it. I believe Casey can provide the impetus to get him to continue in that manner, if that is what Casey wants (and the team needs) out of him. I feel much better about keeping him into next season and on. Which gives the Raps more flexibility, which is what they need moving on into the next couple of seasons.

[mcHAPPY]

Yes I now realize that. Feel free to remove. Enough said. Sorry thought it was news worth reporting. Now I know! Peace

No worries. It is still a good article to show the ignorance the Raptors face as a franchise. Luckily a lot of people, outside Toronto and its fans, know the difference.

[Nilanka]

But as I've pointed out, Bayless actually proved a more effective play maker than Lin.
Not to mention, Bayless had a GREAT stretch of games this season as Starting PG; games which we won a handful of, if I'm not mistaken.
He's going to be a good PG in this league, provided he's treated like a project.

I've seen enough of Bayless over the past 2 seasons to know that "quarterbacking" does not come natural to him. He did put up decent assist numbers during a stretch, but I still can't say with any confidence that he was getting players the ball in the best position to score. He's not a natural PG, and I don't believe there are any numbers that would convince me otherwise.

As for Lin, I've seen far fewer of his games compared to Bayless, so I admit this isn't a fair assessment. But from I have seen of Lin, he is a natural PG.

[Stahmenah_Vybz]

Don't forget that this year yielded their first playoff win since 2001. Longest playoff losing streak in NBA history.

Yeah, and Lin was not part of that!

[Stahmenah_Vybz]

This isn't Yahoo. It is Bleacher Report. Enough said.

Yes I now realize that. Feel free to remove. Enough said. Sorry thought it was news worth reporting. Now I know! Peace

[Joey]

I don't agree with the Joey Graham comparisons. Yes, Graham did put together a good stretch of games for us, but he didn't single-handedly win games for a team that had trouble winning games without him. Big difference.

IMO, Lin's 2 week stretch of play was more important/noteworthy than Bargnani's 13-game stretch, because the Knicks were actually winning games.

Lin definitely has holes in his game, but he's still young, and has the basketball IQ (as well as academic IQ, lol) to figure things out. I'm not necessarily advocating overpaying for his services in Toronto, but I'm simply speaking against the notion that his 15 minutes of fame is up. He's going to be a good PG in this league, provided that he's treated like a project.

But as I've pointed out, Bayless actually proved a more effective play maker than Lin.
Not to mention, Bayless had a GREAT stretch of games this season as Starting PG; games which we won a handful of, if I'm not mistaken.
He's going to be a good PG in this league, provided he's treated like a project.

[Apollo]

The Institute of Stupid

Guys, he followed the U.S. media template the way he was taught:

• Always slurp the big markets.
• Hype the shit out of the story so it get hits and if you're wrong, who cares? It's not like you're going to remind anyone about it. Accountability and integrity are not part of the curriculum. Forget those terms.
• Destroy anything foreign mentioned in the story. Cite hearsay, don't name names and what ever you do, don't and I repeat don't check the facts. If you're doing a television broadcast be sure to act smug when this particular topic comes up; acting smug gives you an air tight case, use it liberally.

[Nilanka]

+1 again..plus jose is a better shooter hands down.

But let's forget the rational reasons why we shouldn't do it (and the reasons are endless). For some reason, I knew we would be talking about this the day he started playing well. The only reason why anyone cared about him was because he was doing this in New York. I cannot remember the last time I have seen something more overhyped

Does anyone not remember when Joey Graham put together a great stretch for 15 games that propelled us into the playoffs a while back? No one gave a sh*t even though sucked for most of his career (and still does).

Its the same thing as the Willis Reed story. We hear that all the time, even though Kevin McHale played some games on a broken foot for the Celtics. New York controls more of the media than anyone else, and that is why people think what Jeremy Lin did was a big deal. But if someone spent the time I am positive that you could find dozens of players who have played well for 7 games in a row.

Let's stop with this BS and try to win some basketball games

I don't agree with the Joey Graham comparisons. Yes, Graham did put together a good stretch of games for us, but he didn't single-handedly win games for a team that had trouble winning games without him. Big difference.

IMO, Lin's 2 week stretch of play was more important/noteworthy than Bargnani's 13-game stretch, because the Knicks were actually winning games.

Lin definitely has holes in his game, but he's still young, and has the basketball IQ (as well as academic IQ, lol) to figure things out. I'm not necessarily advocating overpaying for his services in Toronto, but I'm simply speaking against the notion that his 15 minutes of fame is up. He's going to be a good PG in this league, provided that he's treated like a project.

[BallaBalla]

+1

Excellent observations

+1 again..plus jose is a better shooter hands down.

But let's forget the rational reasons why we shouldn't do it (and the reasons are endless). For some reason, I knew we would be talking about this the day he started playing well. The only reason why anyone cared about him was because he was doing this in New York. I cannot remember the last time I have seen something more overhyped

Does anyone not remember when Joey Graham put together a great stretch for 15 games that propelled us into the playoffs a while back? No one gave a sh*t even though sucked for most of his career (and still does).

Its the same thing as the Willis Reed story. We hear that all the time, even though Kevin McHale played some games on a broken foot for the Celtics. New York controls more of the media than anyone else, and that is why people think what Jeremy Lin did was a big deal. But if someone spent the time I am positive that you could find dozens of players who have played well for 7 games in a row.

Let's stop with this BS and try to win some basketball games