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    We are all aware of Demars regressed play this year, and we've all been really frustrated about it. Though he's been picking it up since February he's still maintained an up & down consistency.

    Im not sure if any of you have made this connection either, but Demar's regression is almost a carbon copy of Nick Youngs regression this season (to the point of getting traded).

    In fact if there is any player to compare Demar with, it would be Nick Young. other than the 3pt shot, everything is practically identical. Can anyone attest to a reason for Nick Young's regression? Perhaps something that has regressed Demar as well (new coach? new style of play?).

    At least Demar isn't alone when it comes to wing regression this year. (Id like to see overall stats for all wings this season!)
    The Baltic Beast is unstoppable!

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    I don't see how you can compare those two, seriously. Their game is not the same at all, as their attitude. Young is a good ballhandler and a good 3 point shooter, but he is somewhat selfish and got a big ego. As for DeMar, his weakness are Young's biggest assets. Plus he lacks confidence compared to Young. But he got a nice attitude and definitely wants to improve his game. I would wait until next season to see what he can really do. We waited a lot for Bargs, but in the beginning of this season it seemed to worth it. I hope it will do the same for DeMar.

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    • #3
      The Raptors just need to drink some Red Bull.

      It gives you Wings.

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      • #4
        I disagree! Young plays a really similar game to Demar. Despite the 3pt shooting, which Demar is improving in, their games only differ by the fineness of their skills (which would make sense because Young is older [teehee]). Young is honestly a more refined, and older Demar. Im just really interested as to what is the reason that both of these players regressed in almost identical ways!

        FG% for both dropped to the .400 level, where last season for both it was above .450 though minutes have been consistent between the two seasons for both players shows large regression. Young just got traded most probably BECAUSE of his regression, and Id really like to know for what reason Washington just lost faith in someone so promising!
        The Baltic Beast is unstoppable!

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        • #5
          Young takes a lot of bad shots and never passes while DeMar basically just isn't very good. There it is.
          @sweatpantsjer

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          • #6
            enlightenment wrote: View Post
            I disagree! Young plays a really similar game to Demar. Despite the 3pt shooting, which Demar is improving in, their games only differ by the fineness of their skills (which would make sense because Young is older [teehee]). Young is honestly a more refined, and older Demar. Im just really interested as to what is the reason that both of these players regressed in almost identical ways!

            FG% for both dropped to the .400 level, where last season for both it was above .450 though minutes have been consistent between the two seasons for both players shows large regression. Young just got traded most probably BECAUSE of his regression, and Id really like to know for what reason Washington just lost faith in someone so promising!
            You are more than welcome to disagree you would just be incorrect.
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            • #7
              He's an opportunistic scorer. I think he picks and chooses his spots to be aggressive. He's said that in his interviews. And think about it, some games we just don't need Demar to score, even though it would be a huge load if he did...

              Demar is my favorite Raptor, as much as I want to defend him, he has been inconsistent. But, many young players this season have been regressing due to the lack of any practice time, and training camp. Remember that time we had the 7 game home-stand? Demar and Ed Davis BOTH picked up their play. So, that could be a small reason. Demar is in a brand new system, after being totally comfortable in an offensive system with Triano, so that could be a reason. Plus Demar is still a very raw player.

              I'm going to admit, he hasn't reached his expectations, and it's been a disappointing season for Demar, but he has good potential, and hopefully he finishes strong this season.
              Last edited by ReubenJRD; Sat Mar 17th, 2012, 03:05 AM.
              Twitter: @ReubenJRD NBA, Raptors writer for Daily Hive Vancouver, Toronto.

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              • #8
                I don't agree with a regression in his game. Maybe he hasn't fulfilled all of the lofty expectations but defensively DeMar has picked up his game over last year. I give him a 5-6 over a 4-5 last year. He has extended his jumper but I think he realizes he can't fall in love with it. He is the second leading scorer on the team so he must be doing something right. Finish the season off strong and it'll have been a very good year.

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                • #9
                  I disagree completely.Young takes bad shots but DeMar just doesnt have the confidence. Just because they play the same position and have nearly the same stats does not mean there play style is the same

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                  • #10
                    tucas wrote: View Post
                    I disagree completely.Young takes bad shots but DeMar just doesnt have the confidence. Just because they play the same position and have nearly the same stats does not mean there play style is the same
                    +1
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                    • #11
                      enlightenment wrote: View Post
                      We are all aware of Demars regressed play this year, and we've all been really frustrated about it. Though he's been picking it up since February he's still maintained an up & down consistency.

                      Im not sure if any of you have made this connection either, but Demar's regression is almost a carbon copy of Nick Youngs regression this season (to the point of getting traded).

                      In fact if there is any player to compare Demar with, it would be Nick Young. other than the 3pt shot, everything is practically identical. Can anyone attest to a reason for Nick Young's regression? Perhaps something that has regressed Demar as well (new coach? new style of play?).

                      At least Demar isn't alone when it comes to wing regression this year. (Id like to see overall stats for all wings this season!)
                      Yikes, stop speaking for me. I'm not frustrated with DeMar yet. I've listed multiple reasons why his struggles could be anything but a regression in ability. I think it's rare for a guy his age to regress in ability. I'm willing to wait and see what next season brings.

                      I think these constant calls for DeRozan to be traded and these constant predictions that DeRozan will be traded are a waste of time. Look at Colangelo's track record. Unless he bucks his own trend you won't see DeMar going anywhere anytime soon.

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                      • #12
                        He has not regressed.

                        He has not lived up to expectations - realistic or not.

                        There is a big difference.

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                        • #13
                          Matt52 wrote: View Post
                          He has not regressed.

                          He has not lived up to expectations - realistic or not.

                          There is a big difference.
                          I guess you can say. He's developing.
                          Twitter: @ReubenJRD NBA, Raptors writer for Daily Hive Vancouver, Toronto.

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                          • #14
                            Matt52 wrote: View Post
                            He has not regressed.

                            He has not lived up to expectations - realistic or not.

                            There is a big difference.
                            The huge regression in Fg% says otherwise. He was a lot more comfortable on the floor last year for some reason, now he looks confused as if the game has quickened its pace without him. His turnovers are up, his fouls are up, his rebounds are slightly down, his Fg% is greatly reduced (thus affecting his pts) all during the same amount of minutes!

                            Expecting him to remain on par with last year I think is incredibly realistic (especially considering he's young and is SUPPOSED to improve!), yet he's fallen below that expectation, and in my books thats called a regression.
                            The Baltic Beast is unstoppable!

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                            • #15
                              Demar has regressed this season but you also have to factor in new coach, no training camp, new offensive system, new defensive system. Demar has always been a open floor type of player which is why he excelled last year but he needs to learn how to play in a half court system. I think this is good for him and hopefully he finishes the year strong and comes back next year even better.

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