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  • e2thed wrote: View Post
    Ain't gonna happen unless teams really break tanking records like 1-81 season or something messed like that.
    I had just smoked a blunt to celebrate finishing my exams, I may have over exagerated a little.

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    • Oh I doubt it will happen too, but you could say that for any proposal. This is all theoretical, from-the-armchair stuff. The problem is that Stern actually changing the system means two things: 1) Admitting his first solution (i.e. 1985 invention of the lottery) was a bust. 2) Admitting teams in his league are tanking. We all saw the attitude he took during the lockout; I think the earliest a change would realistically be made is when a new commissioner takes over.

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      • As an aside:


        Garcia and Hayes' reaction had me laughing...and scratching my head. Do individual players really care about tanking?

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        • One down 2 to go. Do it for the team.

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          • as a fan would you rather have one crappy season and see it result in two or three players that fast track your team into serious playoff contention, or watch a mediocre team year after year?

            http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-am-tanking-isnt-all-bad
            I think mediocrity is the worst place a team could be in the NBA. That is just my opinion though. I said this earlier in the year: it is the job of players and coaches to do everything they can to win games and it is the job of GM's to assemble a roster to compete or tank.

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            • themasao wrote: View Post
              As an aside:


              Garcia and Hayes' reaction had me laughing...and scratching my head. Do individual players really care about tanking?
              LOL Definately worth watching. Garcia and Hayes seem to care

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              • jbml wrote: View Post
                LOL Definately worth watching. Garcia and Hayes seem to care
                Shows how difficult it is for players on the floor with adrenaline pumping to actually tank/clank a shot. Thornton ran a near perfect play to get open and shot the ball to score. With Garcia's reaction it is clear that "tanking" had to have been discussed among the players. I think muscle memory and bb dna kicks in because these guys have ALWAYS been wired to win. The same thing happened to Kleiza last night. That is one of his favourite positions and could have tied the game...he shot to make it. I would have done a Garcia if he did.

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                • I don't understand why tanking is an issue all-of-a-sudden. It's been this way for years, and is basically the same way in all major sports.

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                  • Nilanka wrote: View Post
                    I don't understand why tanking is an issue all-of-a-sudden. It's been this way for years, and is basically the same way in all major sports.
                    It is because all the big or desirable markets are in the playoffs. New York, LA, or Chicago in the lottery, this is not nearly as big an issue as it has been made out to be this year.

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                    • i heard somewhere that Garcia wasn't upset cause he made the shot and he wanted to "Tank", its because Thornton shot it a little too early on the clock so the other team still had a chance to win it.

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                      • NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
                        i heard somewhere that Garcia wasn't upset cause he made the shot and he wanted to "Tank", its because Thornton shot it a little too early on the clock so the other team still had a chance to win it.
                        Ya I heard that too -- it's definitely possible. I mean its all speculation really, but I still find it kinda suspect how Garcia still seemed pissed off after the buzzer sounded. Not to mention, the play was clearly designed as a curl around a screen for a spot up shot. Gordon would have been an idiot (from a non-tanking perspective) to do anything other than catch-and-shoot.

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                        • I can't buy that.

                          Would you expect a player to admit that they wanted to loose. Imagine what that would open up!

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                          • i find that stupid too. I seriously doubt players have the same perspective to tanking as fans. We think it'll make us better, but to them it should be an insult thinking a younger kid can come in and turn the team around, but they can't.

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                            • It's a pathetic race but it's wide open

                              So I'm here looking at the standings and I'm seeing this:

                              Code:
                                                                                        LOTTERY
                                 	                W	 L	PCT	STRK    Chances	Odds
                              1	Charlotte 	7	57	0.109	Lost 21	250	25%
                              2	Washington 	18	46	0.281	Won 4	199	20%
                              3	New Orleans 	20	44	0.313	Lost 1	156	16%
                              4	Cleveland 	21	43	0.328	Lost 2	119	12%
                              5	Sacramento 	21	43	0.328	Won 1	88	9%
                              6	New Jersey 	22	43	0.338	Lost 5	63	6%
                              7	Toronto 	22	43	0.338	Lost 4	43	4%
                              8	Golden State 	23	41	0.359	Won 1	28	3%
                              If the Raptors lose the last two they could conceivably finish with or tied for 4th worst record in the league. I guess 3rd isn't officially out but it's a massive long shot.

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                              • Apollo wrote: View Post
                                So I'm here looking at the standings and I'm seeing this:

                                Code:
                                                                                          LOTTERY
                                   	                W	 L	PCT	STRK    Chances	Odds
                                1	Charlotte 	7	57	0.109	Lost 21	250	25%
                                2	Washington 	18	46	0.281	Won 4	199	20%
                                3	New Orleans 	20	44	0.313	Lost 1	156	16%
                                4	Cleveland 	21	43	0.328	Lost 2	119	12%
                                5	Sacramento 	21	43	0.328	Won 1	88	9%
                                6	New Jersey 	22	43	0.338	Lost 5	63	6%
                                7	Toronto 	22	43	0.338	Lost 4	43	4%
                                8	Golden State 	23	41	0.359	Won 1	28	3%
                                If the Raptors lose the last two they could conceivably finish with or tied for 4th worst record in the league. I guess 3rd isn't officially out but it's a massive long shot.
                                Top 3 games remaining on the 'tanking schedule':

                                New Orleans and Golden State play Tuesday
                                Cleveland and Washington play Wednesday
                                New Jersey and Toronto play Thursday

                                Bonus 'tanking matches':

                                Sacramento and OKC (minus Harden)
                                Sacramento and LAL (at SAC where they are 15-17 with Laker distractions everywhere)

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