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  • Keeping DeRozen means passing on Barnes?

    OUCH - but it is hard to argue otherwise

    A compelling case for Kidd-Gilchrist - seemingly cut in the mold of Duane Casey
    A great article which takes in to account a lot of the things being weighed by Raptors (alleged) brain trust ...interestingly no mention of JLamb
    "I may be wrong ... but I doubt it"

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    Key point:

    Colangelo drafts the top player available on his draft board and worries about the rest later. They're not going to pass on anybody because there is already a player playing that position.

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    • #3
      The article also suggests that if Beal is Colangelo's choice, that opens up the possibility of packaging DeRozan (perhaps with Davis), to fill another area of need.

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      • #4
        If they take a wing I have no problem with DeRozan being moved to upgrade some other position, like the PG spot.

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        • #5
          This is the money shot from the article, in my opinion:

          At this point it would be foolish to advocate for any of the three options
          Those 3 options from the article are Barnes, Beal, and MKG.

          Toronto could be a radically different team in 3-4 months.

          I definitely see major moves done prior to or during draft night.

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          • #6
            I think you go for Barnes if he is still on the board. This guy was projected to go 1st about 6 months ago, and has all star potential you don't pass up on that.

            MKG looks like a great pick too, but the way he is described reminds me too much of a ... role player. We have JJ to play defense at the 3 for us.

            Keep derozan unless we are packaging him with Davis for an upgrade at the 2.
            "Defense wins championships."

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            • #7
              MKG strikes me as a guy Casey would petition for hard.
              @sweatpantsjer

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              • #8
                Nilanka wrote: View Post
                The article also suggests that if Beal is Colangelo's choice, that opens up the possibility of packaging DeRozan (perhaps with Davis), to fill another area of need.
                ahem point guard

                Apollo wrote: View Post
                Colangelo drafts the top player available on his draft board and worries about the rest later. They're not going to pass on anybody because there is already a player playing that position.
                yes but if both Barnes and Kidd-Gill are available it is hard to choose. Barnes is the long scoring juggernaut with passive tenancies - Kidd-Gill is the defensive hard nosed gamer. ... which mix carries more championship pedigree?

                OR do you draft Barnes and move DeRozen?
                Last edited by charlz; Tue Mar 20, 2012, 10:30 AM.
                "I may be wrong ... but I doubt it"

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                • #9
                  If it's a choice between Barnes and MKG, I would go with MKG and hope that with enough practice time, he can develop his offensive game.

                  It's easy to convince players to shoot. It's not easy to get them to go balls out 24/7.

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                  • #10
                    Yeah, you can't really teach motor, good point.
                    @sweatpantsjer

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                    • #11
                      Any chance we could trade DD or Ed for another top 5 pick and draft both?
                      Im assuming it would not happen but its a possibility

                      Any teams (im thinking maybe Washington) That would rather have a 2 year old player like DD who is more ready to play now, then get another rookie?

                      Calderon
                      Barnes
                      MKG
                      Bargs
                      Val

                      I do see a nice blend of offence and defence there.

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                      • #12
                        Nilanka wrote: View Post
                        It's easy to convince players to shoot. It's not easy to get them to go balls out 24/7.
                        Amen.

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                        • #13
                          Hello wrote: View Post
                          Calderon
                          Barnes
                          MKG
                          Bargs
                          Val

                          I do see a nice blend of offence and defence there.
                          That's a drool-worthy starting lineup. But I wonder if Colangelo/Casey have the stomachs to deal with 3 rookies playing heavy minutes.

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                          • #14
                            its not drool worthy when you got three new guys not knowing wtf to do half the time. Too many rookies is never good and starting them from day 1 is even worse unless their name is Jonas Valanciunas

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                            • #15
                              lol, why is Jonas the exception to the rule? Barnes and MKG are considered "NBA-ready" too.

                              Besides, that lineup may not be drool-worthy in November 2012, but it will be in 2-3 years (which is much more important).

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