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  • NoPropsneeded
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    last nights game shows what he can do. No plays draw up for him and he still scored double digits and had a sweet dunk from almost the free throw line. Insane athleticism

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  • Machine
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    NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
    keep ripping him but he is putting up better numbers than the garbage man amir johnson. And i guarantee he will have a much much better career. I also love how you bring up not wanting to develop when the kid hasn't even had 1 full summer to work on his weaknesses. He has also had 2 different coaches in 2 seasons. He off the ground extremely quickly and if he adds muscle and a short to mid range jumper, watch out cause we're lookin at an Antonio Davis type player
    lol well lets hope

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  • NoPropsneeded
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    keep ripping him but he is putting up better numbers than the garbage man amir johnson. And i guarantee he will have a much much better career. I also love how you bring up not wanting to develop when the kid hasn't even had 1 full summer to work on his weaknesses. He has also had 2 different coaches in 2 seasons. He off the ground extremely quickly and if he adds muscle and a short to mid range jumper, watch out cause we're lookin at an Antonio Davis type player

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  • Machine
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    Bendit wrote: View Post
    He's probably thinking he is still at NC State and the opponents are all 5.5. I like the "whatever"!! LOL. I am assuming you actually heard this?
    lol yes here is the link, its the only ed davis video on there i think.. from april 9.

    http://www.nba.com/raptors/video/

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  • Bendit
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    He's probably thinking he is still at NC State and the opponents are all 5.5. I like the "whatever"!! LOL. I am assuming you actually heard this?

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  • Machine
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    Jonsey: "Ed you seem to be getting comfortable with your move on your right shoulder into your left hand.."

    Ed Davis: "Yeah i been doin it my whole career so.. you know.. every team knows im goin left or whatever so.. im just gonna keep doin it or whatever.."

    LMAO guy doesnt even WANT to develop

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  • LBF
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    in toally unrealted, but, more exciting news.

    jays game's on!

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  • mcHAPPY
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    Nilanka wrote: View Post
    I personally don't think it's worth much trouble arguing over Ed vs. Amir. They're both backup bigs who lack strength, and lack offensive polish. I don't see either one ever morphing into a starting PF playing 35 mpg.

    If I had to choose however, I would stick with Amir. I find he works harder, makes better decisions, and in general, is much more fundamentally sound compared to Ed. Plus Ed would be more marketable being on a rookie-scale contract, and coming with false hope in the form of "potential".
    Nailed it.

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  • Nilanka
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    I personally don't think it's worth much trouble arguing over Ed vs. Amir. They're both backup bigs who lack strength, and lack offensive polish. I don't see either one ever morphing into a starting PF playing 35 mpg.

    If I had to choose however, I would stick with Amir. I find he works harder, makes better decisions, and in general, is much more fundamentally sound compared to Ed. Plus Ed would be more marketable being on a rookie-scale contract, and coming with false hope in the form of "potential".

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  • NoPropsneeded
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    FoxMachine wrote: View Post
    Do u watch the games or do u look at stat sheets and manipulate numbers and dates to make ur point? the last few sentences u put together are completely false imo and almost laughable, ed looks far from agile to me.. especially compared to amir.. but we can agree to disagree and just have to see what happens.. hopefully it works out for the best for the raptors sake.
    Amir moves like he's always injured and he is far from agile. He is literally like a robot when he gets the ball in the post, Ed is much more agile than amir IN THE POST. I don't think you watch the games at all, i've watched every game this season and amir has not improved at all. He is still the same player he was with no post moves except 1 robot hook shot he uses. I'm not manipulating numbers go search up Their stats on espn. I think the points you bring up are much more laughable than any of what i just said. Amir is never going to help you win he is just a solid bench player that can be replaced easily

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  • Chr1s1anL
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    NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
    Amir is anything but consistent he was on a huge slump the last string of games. Also Ed averages similar numbers in less time, he averages 7 points, 7 rebounds and a block the past 2 seasons combined. Amir averages 6ppg,5 rpg and 1 block and he hasn't really improved much. Amir was a scrub in Detroit until we traded for him and gave him an opportunity, Ed in just 2 years is already putting up better numbers. Ed has "hustle" and "energy" he has also made some great plays this year and IMO he's better for us moving forward.He's also much more agile in the post and he has longer arms, Amir is robotic in the post and he is playing out of position here.


    Amir is way more agile but, feel like ED is the better post defender and better timing as shot blocker. I think that's why Casey give Amir more minutes. His a way better hedger on screens. Hedging screens are a big part of Casey's defensive schemes. Just the way Casey talks about ED in interview, you can see that he believes in ED's potential

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  • Machine
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    NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
    Amir is anything but consistent he was on a huge slump the last string of games. Also Ed averages similar numbers in less time, he averages 7 points, 7 rebounds and a block the past 2 seasons combined. Amir averages 6ppg,5 rpg and 1 block and he hasn't really improved much. Amir was a scrub in Detroit until we traded for him and gave him an opportunity, Ed in just 2 years is already putting up better numbers. Ed has "hustle" and "energy" he has also made some great plays this year and IMO he's better for us moving forward. He's also much more agile in the post and he has longer arms, Amir is robotic in the post and he is playing out of position here.
    Do u watch the games or do u look at stat sheets and manipulate numbers and dates to make ur point? the last few sentences u put together are completely false imo and almost laughable, ed looks far from agile to me.. especially compared to amir.. but we can agree to disagree and just have to see what happens.. hopefully it works out for the best for the raptors sake.

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  • NoPropsneeded
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    Amir is anything but consistent he was on a huge slump the last string of games. Also Ed averages similar numbers in less time, he averages 7 points, 7 rebounds and a block the past 2 seasons combined. Amir averages 6ppg,5 rpg and 1 block and he hasn't really improved much. Amir was a scrub in Detroit until we traded for him and gave him an opportunity, Ed in just 2 years is already putting up better numbers. Ed has "hustle" and "energy" he has also made some great plays this year and IMO he's better for us moving forward. He's also much more agile in the post and he has longer arms, Amir is robotic in the post and he is playing out of position here.

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  • Machine
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    NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
    not really, i think your opinion is simply because you like amir better. Don't get me wrong i love amir but we have to get rid of one of them and Ed just seems like the better player moving forward. Think a left-handed Taj Gibson
    i dont know amir johnson so i dont know if i like him.. id rather keep him on this team because he plays better and plays consistently.. if uve watched every game this season and dont see how amir affects alotta games then we are paying attention to different things.. amir johnson does things to win games.. he arguably has the most hustle on this team.. he battles, ed is complacent.. im not an "amir fan" im a raptors fan, and i want the players that will help us win.. sure ed has "potential" but i just dont see him getting the numbers u want to see out of him seeing how uncoordinated he is on offence.. good game last night, alotta garbage points and being in the right place at the right time.. that happens to everybody every now and then.. anyway.. its just my opinion but if we lose one of them, it has to be Ed.

    RaptorReuben wrote: View Post
    In terms of hitting the ground running we'll want Amir Johnson. Just because he's an energy player and can impact a game in less that 10 minutes. Has a nose for the ball, great shot-blocking ability, runs the floor as well as any big man, and his jump-shot (slower than a damn turtle) is actually fairly solid.

    Ed Davis will be a better potential player for sure, he is a guy that MAY be able to give you 10-8 a night, but I've got to go with a guy that I know what he can do for me. I don't have to worry about him getting the ball, and knowing he'll give it to you each and every night. Amir will give you something whether it's defense, offense, rebounding, etc.

    I think the whole NBA has fallen into loving potential EVEN when it doesn't pan out. But when you have two similar players and one is no where near the other in terms of playing their style, one has to go IF we had to choose.
    ^ This is a different story to Demar Derozan and my love for his potential. Just because there isn't another player on the wing that is the talent Demar is.

    Ed Davis and Amir Johnson will both get us players that are worth something, but I believe trading Ed will be a better trade chip only because of his cheap contract, and his potential.
    100% agree

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  • ReubenJRD
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    In terms of hitting the ground running we'll want Amir Johnson. Just because he's an energy player and can impact a game in less that 10 minutes. Has a nose for the ball, great shot-blocking ability, runs the floor as well as any big man, and his jump-shot (slower than a damn turtle) is actually fairly solid.

    Ed Davis will be a better potential player for sure, he is a guy that MAY be able to give you 10-8 a night, but I've got to go with a guy that I know what he can do for me. I don't have to worry about him getting the ball, and knowing he'll give it to you each and every night. Amir will give you something whether it's defense, offense, rebounding, etc.

    I think the whole NBA has fallen into loving potential EVEN when it doesn't pan out. But when you have two similar players and one is no where near the other in terms of playing their style, one has to go IF we had to choose.
    ^ This is a different story to Demar Derozan and my love for his potential. Just because there isn't another player on the wing that is the talent Demar is.

    Ed Davis and Amir Johnson will both get us players that are worth something, but I believe trading Ed will be a better trade chip only because of his cheap contract, and his potential.

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