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Jose Watch 2012: Colangelo hints Jose will not be amnestied (#46)
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NoPropsneeded wrote: View Postno thanks we need an athletic 3 that not only can shoot but also drive to the basket and be explosive. We want this team to be a contender not mediocre. Plus Ilyasova is more of a stretch 4, he isn't mobile and athletic enough to play the 3.
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MangoKid wrote: View PostThe one thing I don't want to have happen is that Colangelo/Stefanski don't trade for a guy like Gay or Iguodala and Raptors fans deem this off-season a failure.
Personally, I'd like to see a guy like Ilyasova join us and have him as our 3...and I;d like to see Jose stick around..and sign a contract extension at a much lower rate.
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Nilanka wrote: View PostI respectfully disagree. One can shoot great percentages without possessing the one-on-one skills required to break a defender down, or to create space.
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MangoKid wrote: View PostHe's making his shots. It's not like he's shooting 42-43%. So yeah, I'll say that his high FG % is indicative of him not only being able to create his own shot, but making it as well.
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Nilanka wrote: View PostScoring does not equate to being able to create one's own shot.
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MangoKid wrote: View PostBoth Batum and Chandler are going to be difficult to obtain. Ilyasova might be a better fit for this team. He's tough, competes hard on D and in the grand scheme of things, he'll be cheaper without having to give up an asset from our side. You say he can't create his own shot, and yet he's avergaing 13 ppg all the while hitting 50% from the field, and 45% from 3.
Dribble penetration is the issue, though. Like I said to Nilanka, you can't have DD and Ilyasova as your starting wings. To be honest, if I had to choose one my loyalty would not be to DeMar.
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Nilanka wrote: View PostI'm not a fan of Ilysova. He's a great rebounder, but his offensive game is very robotic, and he can't create his own shot.
I'd much rather aim for a Batum or Wilson Chandler type. They're both better athletes in general.
Both Batum and Chandler are going to be difficult to obtain. Ilyasova might be a better fit for this team. He's tough, competes hard on D and in the grand scheme of things, he'll be cheaper without having to give up an asset from our side. You say he can't create his own shot, and yet he's avergaing 13 ppg all the while hitting 50% from the field, and 45% from 3.
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Nilanka wrote: View PostI'm not a fan of Ilysova. He's a great rebounder, but his offensive game is very robotic, and he can't create his own shot.
I'd much rather aim for a Batum or Wilson Chandler type. They're both better athletes in general.
I don't think you can have Ilyasova and DeRozan as starting wings. Similar argument as DD and MKG or even DD and JJ for that matter.
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Nilanka wrote: View PostI'm not a fan of Ilysova. He's a great rebounder, but his offensive game is very robotic, and he can't create his own shot.
I'd much rather aim for a Batum or Wilson Chandler type. They're both better athletes in general.
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MangoKid wrote: View PostIt doesn't make much sense. Gay isn't a FA. Wouldn't Calderon be used as a part of a package going the other way to match up salaries. It doesn't matter anyways, because I can't imagine Gay being dealt to Toronto. That's pie in the sky thinking.
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I'm not a fan of Ilysova. He's a great rebounder, but his offensive game is very robotic, and he can't create his own shot.
I'd much rather aim for a Batum or Wilson Chandler type. They're both better athletes in general.
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The one thing I don't want to have happen is that Colangelo/Stefanski don't trade for a guy like Gay or Iguodala and Raptors fans deem this off-season a failure.
Personally, I'd like to see a guy like Ilyasova join us and have him as our 3...and I;d like to see Jose stick around..and sign a contract extension at a much lower rate.
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MangoKid wrote: View PostIt doesn't make much sense. Gay isn't a FA. Wouldn't Calderon be used as a part of a package going the other way to match up salaries. It doesn't matter anyways, because I can't imagine Gay being dealt to Toronto. That's pie in the sky thinking.
However, I am hoping for a 4-game sweep at the hands of the Clippers just to make some tough decisions go on in Memphis. They are going to be up against the luxury tax once their roster is rounded out and that does not include resigning Mayo or one or both of Speights/Arthur.
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