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  • Casey setting the bar for next season: Playoffs

    Source: Eric Koreen, National Post

  • #2
    Although he's stating the obvious, I'm glad Casey put it out there.

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    • #3
      The building is over? I wasn't even aware it had started.

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      • #4
        Can you quote the place where he said they're done building? I'm missing it. Thanks.

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        • #5
          Apollo wrote: View Post
          Can you quote the place where he said they're done building? I'm missing it. Thanks.
          Just read the excerpt Matt pulled. You don't even have to infer anything, it's an express statement. It's also in bolded letters.

          "It's past the building stage".

          You're welcome.

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          • #6
            slaw wrote: View Post
            Just read the excerpt Matt pulled. You don't even have to infer anything, it's an express statement. It's also in bolded letters.

            "It's past the building stage".

            You're welcome.
            Just so you know saying ur done building deosnt mean we have a finish product and saying u dont see the builduing this year its plain stupid.( by the way I think the raptors DIDN'T want to make the playoff this and not that they couldn't)

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            • #7
              slaw wrote: View Post
              Just read the excerpt Matt pulled. You don't even have to infer anything, it's an express statement. It's also in bolded letters.

              "It's past the building stage".

              You're welcome.
              "Past the building stage" doesn't mean "building is over". Do you think Casey feels this team can win next year as is just by telling the guys "ok, now our focus is winning so win"?

              The more I think about his statements the more I think he's only talking about the establishment of the system. He's been building that all season and maybe he feels the foundation is in place and next year he's going with guys who produce as opposed to calling a guy's number just to get him minutes and to see what he can do.

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              • #8
                If we're going strictly by Casey's quote, then he did imply that building is over. You can't go past a "stage" while continuing to stay within it.

                But from a general view of the state of the franchise, it's clear that Casey's not done building. The guys still have a lot to learn about winning consistently.

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                • #9
                  It's all semantics! Of course they are going to continue to grow and build, but the days of collecting lottery players, and spinning our tires are done in Casey's mind. He has built a foundation this year to prepare the team for being a competitive team next year.

                  I like all the talk going on...Colangelo "we are going to hit the ground running.", and Casey "The goal is playoffs." It's always a goal, but I think he actually believes he will have the talent to maker it happen. I hope it's just not all hot air. I can't wait for this off-season it should be interesting!

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                  • #10
                    Nilanka wrote: View Post
                    If we're going strictly by Casey's quote, then he did imply that building is over. You can't go past a "stage" while continuing to stay within it.

                    But from a general view of the state of the franchise, it's clear that Casey's not done building. The guys still have a lot to learn about winning consistently.
                    So after you finish renovating your house you can't build a back deck the follow year or slap a new coat of paint on the downstairs bathroom or go out and purchase/install a new hot water tank or... You get the picture. I think it comes down to focus. Casey is no longer focused on building, he's focused on winning but that does not mean he has tunnel vision and is incapable or unwilling to improve his team in any way needed to facilitate the next stage, which is winning. Any sustained success story out there has continuous improvement/modifications to the vehicle that brought them success. Even a team like the Spurs are still building in some way or another to facilitate the sustained success.

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                    • #11
                      With Val, first & second round picks from this years draft our over all talent will be higher, but I'm not expecting a vaulable contribution right away. I'm really excited about whom they are targeting in free agency as that player(s) should contribute directly to win/loss column. I hope it gets better than Sasha Vujacic though I hear that was a false rumor.

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                      • #12
                        Apollo wrote: View Post
                        So after you finish renovating your house you can't build a back deck the follow year or slap a new coat of paint on the downstairs bathroom or go out and purchase/install a new hot water tank or... You get the picture. I think it comes down to focus. Casey is no longer focused on building, he's focused on winning but that does not mean he has tunnel vision and is incapable or unwilling to improve his team in any way needed to facilitate the next stage, which is winning.
                        Regarding Casey, I agree with you 100%.

                        But based on semantics, if someone asked you if your house is finished "building", I'm sure you wouldn't answer 'no' because the powder room needs a fresh colour. That would be an upgrade/modification instead (at least IMO). But building is complete.

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                        • #13
                          Glad he said that lets goo! I'm sure DeMar will be fired up next season and go 100% to try and help us make the playoffs. He seems like he really wants to get there and show everyone that he can razz with the best of em

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                          • #14
                            Apollo wrote: View Post
                            So after you finish renovating your house you can't build a back deck the follow year or slap a new coat of paint on the downstairs bathroom or go out and purchase/install a new hot water tank or... You get the picture. I think it comes down to focus. Casey is no longer focused on building, he's focused on winning but that does not mean he has tunnel vision and is incapable or unwilling to improve his team in any way needed to facilitate the next stage, which is winning. Any sustained success story out there has continuous improvement/modifications to the vehicle that brought them success. Even a team like the Spurs are still building in some way or another to facilitate the sustained success.
                            The analogy doesn't work. The Raptors aren't renovating their house. They don't have a house. In fact, the Raptors don't have any part of a house. The current state of the organization is the huge hole in the ground you dig before you lay the foundation. Not only don't they have a house, they haven't even started laying the foundation yet. There is one marginal NBA starter on this roster (Bargs). We don't know who the 2012 pick is and JV hasn't played a game. Should the focus of this team really be shifting to the playoffs at this stage? Isn't this wildly premature? Isn't this exactly what happened in 2006? Why the rush to repeat a process that's a proven failure?

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                            • #15
                              Casey might be speaking from a future perspective. He may have an idea of what types of players or transactions are on the horizon. I fully expect come training camp the roster to be much different than it is today.

                              The role players are in place (ED, AMIR, DD, JJ, LK, JC, maybe Aaron Gray)
                              The fringe players don't matter (Uzoh, Alabi, Anderson, Forbes, Magloire)
                              2 pillars are in place (AB and JV).

                              What gets added this summer through draft, free agency, or trade is to be determined.


                              Regardless of what pieces are added, there has been a shift in philosophy and expectation in the franchise. Is the house finished? Not yet but the most important part of the house is definitely done: the foundation.

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