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"Would you rather" tournament pick'em: The Final 4 has begun! (post 204)

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  • octothorp
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    AA

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  • CalgaryRapsFan
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    This matchup is a hard comparison, since one is a wing and the other is a PG. I think this head-to-head would ultimately be decided by positional need, as much as BPA. On only the schematic comparison that Coach laid out, I would pick Player AA. However, I think the stats have overinflated his worth, as I don't think he's a good enough player to finish so high in this draft game (if it is who I think it is). I just can't bring myself to vote for a player who's only superior 'off the ball' and 'in transition'.

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  • Hello
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    AA for the same reasons everyone else said.

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  • Puffer
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    Go with AA. Seems like a better fit for Raps as they are expected to be next year.

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  • Jon_Wade
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    AA although it sucks that his post up is that bad, ability to create his own shot gives you somebody at the end of the game that you can let take that last shot, also pick and roll is going to be very important with jonas around so i'll go with AA

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  • koncept
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    uhm AA. It would be nice for raps to have a player who can create his own and shot outside

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  • The Coach
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    Final Four - Match 2

    Andre Drummond is in the finals! Beat out Robinson 8 votes to 1!!


    I am using schematics for the final four, which is explained here:

    SchematicsIsolation- Ability to operate in a one-on-one matchup from the perimeter around the 3-point line and midrange.
    Post Up- Ability to operate with back to the basket or facing up while battling for position around midrange and outside the paint.
    Pick & Roll- Capacity of players to use a screen from the perimeter to get an open shot, drive the lane or create off of it, or to set the screen to roll to the basket or pop out for a shot.
    Off Ball- Capacity of players to run off and use screens to get an open shots, capitalize on spot up opportunities or use them to get a lane or create, or to set them and roll out of them for open shots.
    Transition- Players knack for getting out on the break after turnovers, rebounds or made baskets and to create or finish in an up-tempo possession against favorable numbers (3 on 2, 2 on 1, etc.) and without an established defense.
    Final Four: Match 2 - The Wings

    .........................Player AA...........................Player BB
    Isolation....................10................... ....................7
    Post Up......................2......................... ..............6
    Pick & Roll...................8.......................... .............5
    Off Ball.......................7...................... .................9
    Transition...................7.................... ...................8



    Sorry for the one-dimensional comparison. I am just using draft sites for these comparisons and I couldn't find something that worked well for the defensive end. For the record, Drummond was ranked higher on the defensive end than Robinson based on the past rounds comparisons.

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  • mcHAPPY
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    Z

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  • Hello
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    Z seems better overall, But Y seems to be a better fit with JV like eez said.
    I agree with everyone else though, we need to see more stats about defense.

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  • Vykis
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    Z, but would like to see 1on1 defense, off-ball/help defense and rebounding

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  • CalgaryRapsFan
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    Player Z.

    Post-Up and Off-Ball are more important in a traditional big man than Isolation. Funny, aren't these 'traditional big' skills what most people complain about that Bargnani is lacking? lol

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  • Jon_Wade
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    Since it's big guys i'll go with the one that can post up better, z

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  • ezz_bee
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    I'll take Y I think the midrange game makes him more flexible on offense, and will help spread the floor. The discrepancy in post ups is only 1 point and I think probably can be coached, plus JV will be working in the post anyway.

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  • Miekenstien
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    z

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  • koncept
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    I agree with Z. Post scoring trumps perimeter iso for a big man.

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