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  • Quirk
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    NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
    DeMar is not a "promising rotation player" he is better than both Iylasova and Dunleavy
    How do you mean "better?" His results in actual basketball game are worse than both by quite a large margin, take a look at 82games simple rating, Win's Produced or even PER. What makes you say he is better?

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  • e2thed
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    Miekenstien wrote: View Post
    stockton fan myself.
    For real the dirtiest PG to ever play.

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  • ceez
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    There's other PG's potentially on the block after this season that I'd rather have. We'll leave it at that I guess.

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  • NoPropsneeded
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    Your underrating our players big time right now and overrating Ilyasova. Ilyasova is nothing more than a above average bench player and under average starter. He is NOT better than Bargnani or DeRozan, actually he might be on par with kleiza. If this tade ever happened I'd stop watching Raptors basketball forever, but we all know it won't because it is soo lop sided with Milwaukee getting the better players. With a healthy Bargnani and DeRozan we were in the playoff race, If Ilyasova was better than Bargs Milwaukee would have been in the playoffs easy. DeMar is not a "promising rotation player" he is better than both Iylasova and Dunleavy, he will be an all star in a few season just wait and see.

    Maybe NoPropsNeeded will move there
    Maybe you should move there since you love Ilyasova soo much.

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  • Quirk
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    CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View Post
    I don't like that trade, but I'd much rather the Compton reunion happen somewhere other than Toronto.
    Not sure what the best we could get is, but Ilysova would be the best player on our team right now, and would go great with JV and Calderon. Dunleavy would be our best SF at the moment too.

    But the real point is YoungGunz2 could really roll in brewtown!

    Jennings, DeRozan, Johnson and Weems! Maybe NoPropsNeeded will move there to

    And we could draft Lamb as our starting SG, or even give Bayless a shot at it, especially if we get Lillard and not Lamb.

    Best,

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  • Quirk
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    NoPropsneeded wrote: View Post
    you want to trade 2 promising players for an aging veteran and a tweener? stupid trade
    We could use a productive vet like Dunleavy. Ilysova is awesome. I like Amir too, but Ilysova has better advanced stats, and would probably push Bargs to the bench eventually.

    DeMar is a promising rotation player. He can back probably back up two positions effectively. But Jennings is just not productive enough to be more than a back up, so if they want to "team up" let them do it in Milwaukee.

    I can actually see an entertaining combo like DeRozan and Jennings being fan favorites, but not winning too many basketball games. Millwuakee might be the perfect spot for the YoungGunz2 to roll.

    http://www.thenbageek.com/players/compare?utf8=%E2%9C%93&player_ids[]=321&player_ids[]=175&player_ids[]=318&player_ids[]=174&player_ids[]=380

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  • Bendit
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    GameBreaker wrote: View Post
    Lol...Whooooahhh!!! Are you okay? I asked a simple question on other possibilities of how the franchise goes about things. Why not listen to Bargs and DD? No matter how you cut it, you wanna hear what they say as to what might make them better, being that they ARE the current franchise players. You might need a chill pill. Jus sayin.
    Was I being a bit harsh? Maybe (but I think not actually) just a visceral response to one of my pet peeves...the "inmates taking over the asylum" suggestion. This happened once before with Vince Carter and he was at the time a much valuable and important player in the L as well as Grunwald buttering him up so he would sign an extension. And you know what happened to that team thereafter. I will reiterate, it is a terrible idea asking who I believe to be cogs in the wheel type of players for their input in anything re the team except possibly for their opinions about themselves (preferences of plays called for them, what they think their strengths and weaknesses are and possibly the carpet color in the dressing room).

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  • CalgaryRapsFan
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    Quirk wrote: View Post
    I want to trade DD to Milwaukee!

    Reunite the Young Gunz! Amir, DeMar, and a resigned Sonny to Milwaukee for Dunleavy and a resigned Ilyasova!
    I don't like that trade, but I'd much rather the Compton reunion happen somewhere other than Toronto.

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  • NoPropsneeded
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    Quirk wrote: View Post
    I want to trade DD to Milwaukee!

    Reunite the Young Gunz! Amir, DeMar, and a resigned Sonny to Milwaukee for Dunleavy and a resigned Ilyasova!
    you want to trade 2 promising players for an aging veteran and a tweener? stupid trade

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  • Nilanka
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    GameBreaker wrote: View Post
    Lol...Whooooahhh!!! Are you okay? I asked a simple question on other possibilities of how the franchise goes about things. Why not listen to Bargs and DD? No matter how you cut it, you wanna hear what they say as to what might make them better, being that they ARE the current franchise players. You might need a chill pill. Jus sayin.
    If you go about asking Bargs and DD on personnel matters, then you have to involve everyone else's opinions too. Bargs and DD aren't good enough to be given special treatment, and if other players found out these guys are being treated differently, I wouldn't be surprised to see the locker room divided.

    I agree with Bendit, it's a bad idea giving these 2 the same benefits Kobe and Dirk would receive. They're both mediocre players on a mediocre team. Their job is to play basketball, not to assemble winning teams.

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  • GameBreaker
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    Bendit wrote: View Post
    Oh no!! Please lets not start asking the rank and file employees about their preference for certain players and one of them possibly choosing a certain someone based purely on their friendship. Thats not how to run a basketball franchise. I would be very careful about such a precedent and reluctantly I would only extend such a courtesy to a major major franchise star (I mean a Kobe, Duncan etc) because of the reality of a basketball team and importance of the makeup of the starting group.

    Which brings me to who the .... is DD & Bargnani in the grand scheme of things. This group of Raptors has yet to come within pissing distance of the playoffs and BC should consult with B list players on who to acquire?

    @ Gorlitzer

    diduknow that Anderson is in deep doodoo on child porno charges?
    Lol...Whooooahhh!!! Are you okay? I asked a simple question on other possibilities of how the franchise goes about things. Why not listen to Bargs and DD? No matter how you cut it, you wanna hear what they say as to what might make them better, being that they ARE the current franchise players. You might need a chill pill. Jus sayin.

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  • Quirk
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    koncept wrote: View Post
    so it seems obvious now they will reunite in 2014. So do people want to take on BJ to keep DD?
    I want to trade DD to Milwaukee!

    Reunite the Young Gunz! Amir, DeMar, and a resigned Sonny to Milwaukee for Dunleavy and a resigned Ilyasova!

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  • phdmac
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    I'm fine with bringing in Jennings. He does shoot a bit much for my liking, but he is a good and willing defender, which is always great at the point of attack. He's still young and can grow with the nucleus here

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  • koncept
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    so it seems obvious now they will reunite in 2014. So do people want to take on BJ to keep DD?

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  • Miekenstien
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    ceez wrote: View Post
    GP! My favorite pg ever, that's awesome.
    stockton fan myself.

    i don't want jennings. happy with bayless between the two. bayless will be cheaper and is actually less chucky then jennings.
    here are the stats head to head

    http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3417/jerryd-bayless
    http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3...andon-jennings

    and even career averages bayless is the better player.

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