Given the Raptors interests in wing players this draft, here is Hollinger's draft rating for perimeter players:
Perimeter Players: The Best
Dion Waiters Syracuse 14.12
Kendall Marshall North Carolina 13.84
M. Kidd-Gilchrist Kentucky 13.58
Marquis Teague Kentucky 13.18
Quincy Miller Baylor 12.94
Tony Wroten Washington 12.21
Bradley Beal Florida 11.65
Kostas Sloukas Greece 11.51
Harrison Barnes North Carolina 11.11
Will Barton Memphis 10.90
Doron Lamb Kentucky 10.65
Jeremy Lamb Connecticut 10.50
Remember, these are projected PER ratings three or four years into their pro careers (or so I understand). Here's what he had to say about Waiters:
"I have Waiters fourth for similar reasons. His size, 6-foot-4, is more of a concern, but whatever team made him a promise did a wise thing. Waiters projects as the best small wing since Dwyane Wade, and he'd be a steal if somebody got him in the Nos. 8-10 range currently being discussed."
His Quincy Miller evaluation also caught me by surprise:
"The other wing everybody is sleeping on is Quincy Miller of Baylor, who put up a strong mark despite coming off an ACL injury. He has more questions marks because of the knee and his bony build, but he is long and can score. The stories of him slipping have me baffled, because he rates as a top-10 pick."
He wasn't as high on Beal and Barnes:
"Two other wings who will be drafted highly don't rate as strongly: Beal and Harrison Barnes. Most players in their range turn out to be solid, but this part of the pool doesn't produce many stars. I'd be more comfortable taking these two in the later part of the lottery."
One last quote on Lillard:
"One player that Draft Rater isn't crazy about is Damian Lillard of Weber State, who compiled strong numbers but did so against a weak schedule and is much older than most of the prospects at his position. He not only failed to outrank the top point guards above but also rates behind the less-heralded Tyshawn Taylor of Kansas. No. 6 clearly seems a stretch for Lillard, who looks more like a mid-to-late first-rounder in this analysis."
Take it for what it's worth. For me, I've always liked Waiters (that's my opinion, not Hollinger's).
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torch19 wrote: View PostI'm liking Dion Waiters even more. I think Ive said that enough.
Not saying I agree with his order necessarily, but it's good to see that Waiters is looked at in some context as less risky than Beal.
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OzRapFan wrote: View PostHope his right,
If we came away with Barnes/Lillard, Moe Harkless and Quincy Acy (projected around our ranges) I would call it a sucessful draft for once.
I can't believe Perry Jones is down at #28. Ouch. I've never liked Damian Lillard so I hope the Raptors are reading this. Surprised at Dion Waiters and Quincy Miller. So if the mock drafts are right and Hollinger's rankings are right, then Waiters would be a steal.
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Hope his right,
If we came away with Barnes/Lillard, Moe Harkless and Quincy Acy (projected around our ranges) I would call it a sucessful draft for once.
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Quincy Miller at #6 sticks out for me.
I wonder when Nopropsneeded will notice.......
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Standing out, Dw at 4
Barnes and Beal at 11 / 12
Lilliard at 18....
Quite a difference here, but usually Hollinger is accurate, usually......
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Hollinger's Big Board, PER
7. Making my board
Knowing everything we know, here is how my board looks heading into draft day. This is taking into account everything from the Draft Rater as well as what we know about the players' red flags, defensive pluses and minuses and one or two subjective calls:
1. Anthony Davis
2. Thomas Robinson
3. Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
4. Dion Waiters
5. Andre Drummond
6. Quincy Miller
7. Jared Sullinger
8. Terrence Jones
9. John Henson
10. Royce White
11. Bradley Beal
12. Harrison Barnes
13. Tony Wroten
14. Kendall Marshall
15. Marquis Teague
16. Draymond Green
17. Jeremy Lamb
18. Damian Lillard
19. Austin Rivers
20. Doron Lamb
21. Furkan Aldemir
22. Will Barton
23. Tyler Zeller
24. Evan Fournier
25. Tyshawn Taylor
26. Meyers Leonard
27. Terrence Ross
28. Perry Jones
29. Festus Ezeli
30. Fab Melo
31. Kostas Sloukas
32. Henry Sims
33. Terrell Stoglin
34. Kostas Papanikolaou
35. Moe Harkless
36. Leon Radosevic
37. JaMychal Green
38. Andrew Nicholson
39. Drew Gordon
40. Garrett Stutz
41. Robert Sacre
42. Arnett Moultrie
43. William Buford
44. Jae Crowder
45. Jared Cunningham
46. Jordan Taylor
47. John Jenkins
48. Orlando Johnson
49. Jeffrey Taylor
50. Tomas Satoransky
51. Quincy Acy
52. Maalik Wayns
53. Tornike Shengelia
54. Scott Machado
55. Mike Scott
56. J'Covan Brown
57. Reggie Hamilton
58. Khris Middleton
59. Tony Mitchell
60. Miles Plumlee
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