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  • Kuh
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    SuperRaptor wrote: View Post
    Even when It appeared as though Steve Nash was going to become a raptor, I felt like I wasn't sure if we were really making THAT big of an upgrade at the PG.

    Calderon had a career year with 10.5 pts/8.8 ast/3 reb a game in 33 min.

    Can we really say with confidence that Dragic or Lowry will be much better than that? Or is it just a matter of us wanting to see a change happen.

    I honestly do not believe that PG is the position that we need to be targeting for a change. I think with Bayless and Calderon we probably have one of the better one-two tandems in the NBA. Maybe we should sit tight and just fill in holes in our roster with role players, creating a team with solid depth.

    After the Landry Fields signing though, I am not even sure if we have any cap space left to significantly upgrade any other position.

    All that I am saying is that lets not make a move just for the sake of making one, unless it addresses a NEED that we have. Our current depth chart (in brackets players that can fill gaps for us):

    PG: Calderon/Bayless/(uzoh) <- Uzoh will be dirt cheap and be a good emergency PG.
    SG: Derozan/Ross/Forbes
    SF: Fields/Johnson/Kleiza
    C: Valancuinas/Amir/(Gray) <- I would like us to resign Aaron Gray.
    PF: Bargnani/Davis/Acy

    One thing I can say about our team is that it looks like we do have good depth, our second unit with: Bayless, Ross, Johnson, Gray, and Amir doesn't seem too bad off the bench to me. It all depends on if we have a healthy Andrea Bargnani, a Derozan that takes a solid step forward, and Valanciunas panning out the way we hope he will.

    I think our slow and steady growth strategy was working well, I liked the idea of having "flexibility" lol. But I honestly believe that we can still sneak into the east with the 7th or 8th seed with the above line up. What do you guys think?
    You said it. +1

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  • DoNDaDDa
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    Tesla wrote: View Post
    Lol we got fucked over
    i still think BC is doing his best but its def. looking like we got screwed in FA.. hope he has better luck on the trade front. the only way Houston gets Lin at this point is if there deal is loaded

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  • Sig
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    DoNDaDDa wrote: View Post
    dragic is out.. PHX just signed to offer sheet of 4yrs &34mill.. i guess Houston will have to land Lin or they'll mend fences with Lowry & move on with him..

    that leaves us with Jose
    Lol we got fucked over

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  • Blacklash2k4
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    knickz wrote: View Post
    it amazes me why ppl think jose calderon is a bad pg...he's in the prime of his career and ready to break out...if he's here next season, let's hope he shoots the damn ball more
    Actually, I think his prime was when like 2 years ago. Right now, he's start to decline slowly in his career. His shooting isn't as good as it used to be. Although I have to say that I'm impressed that he has keep his assists and assist to turnover ratio so consistent despite all his injuries. If Calderon could score a lot more (around 10-13 PPG) while keeping his assists constant, I'll be happy to keep him. Hopefully he can also keep up the improvement on his defense with a training camp. If that is so, I say we keep Calderon!

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  • DoNDaDDa
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    dragic is out.. PHX just signed to 4yrs &34mill.. i guess Houston will have to land Lin or they'll mend fences with Lowry & move on with him..

    that leaves us with Jose
    Last edited by DoNDaDDa; Thu Jul 5, 2012, 01:18 AM.

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  • NoPropsneeded
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    Lets just stick with Lowry

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  • Sig
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    knickz wrote: View Post
    it amazes me why ppl think jose calderon is a bad pg...he's in the prime of his career and ready to break out...if he's here next season, let's hope he shoots the damn ball more
    I'd say he's hit his prime, probably not declining yet

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  • knickz
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    it amazes me why ppl think jose calderon is a bad pg...he's in the prime of his career and ready to break out...if he's here next season, let's hope he shoots the damn ball more

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  • DaveKim
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    Is Calderon an option for a sign and trade.

    Now that New York lost on Nash and may lose on Lin, depending on offers from houston, would Calderon be an ideal fit in New York. I don't know the exact way a sign and trade would work, but could trade Calderon and filler for Landry fields. This would free up our cap space this summer and could give us more possibilities.

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  • DoNDaDDa
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    im sure BC will do everything in his power to upgrade every position if possible..id be very shocked if big changes dont happen.. there are still good players in play.. i hope BC isnt drowning in a bottle of vodka right now.. that being said if only minor changes happen we can still be better then the Knicks LOL

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  • Mack North
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    Agreed. It's supposed to be a rebuild. Some cohesiveness would be nice too. Ross and Big Val added to last seasons lineup minus the injuries(hard to do I know) and we can be a solid team in the east. Nowhere near contention and not bad enough for a really good draft pick, but on the rise(and very young too!). I'm not a fan of the FA's that are left out there, so I'd rather stay status quo.

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  • SuperRaptor
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    Even when It appeared as though Steve Nash was going to become a raptor, I felt like I wasn't sure if we were really making THAT big of an upgrade at the PG.

    Calderon had a career year with 10.5 pts/8.8 ast/3 reb a game in 33 min.

    Can we really say with confidence that Dragic or Lowry will be much better than that? Or is it just a matter of us wanting to see a change happen.

    I honestly do not believe that PG is the position that we need to be targeting for a change. I think with Bayless and Calderon we probably have one of the better one-two tandems in the NBA. Maybe we should sit tight and just fill in holes in our roster with role players, creating a team with solid depth.

    After the Landry Fields signing though, I am not even sure if we have any cap space left to significantly upgrade any other position.

    All that I am saying is that lets not make a move just for the sake of making one, unless it addresses a NEED that we have. Our current depth chart (in brackets players that can fill gaps for us):

    PG: Calderon/Bayless/(uzoh) <- Uzoh will be dirt cheap and be a good emergency PG.
    SG: Derozan/Ross/Forbes
    SF: Fields/Johnson/Kleiza
    C: Valancuinas/Amir/(Gray) <- I would like us to resign Aaron Gray.
    PF: Bargnani/Davis/Acy

    One thing I can say about our team is that it looks like we do have good depth, our second unit with: Bayless, Ross, Johnson, Gray, and Amir doesn't seem too bad off the bench to me. It all depends on if we have a healthy Andrea Bargnani, a Derozan that takes a solid step forward, and Valanciunas panning out the way we hope he will.

    I think our slow and steady growth strategy was working well, I liked the idea of having "flexibility" lol. But I honestly believe that we can still sneak into the east with the 7th or 8th seed with the above line up. What do you guys think?
    Last edited by SuperRaptor; Thu Jul 5, 2012, 12:18 AM.
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