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  • Let The Valanciunas, Anthony Davis Comparisons Begin

    Here's a conversation starter -- is this a fair comparison? What do you expect from JV and the Unibro this year? Does this suggest that JV is considered to be one of the top two rookies this year? Who's the better player in 5 years? Let's hear your thoughts, because it's the dog days of RR summer and training camp is less than 2 months away.
    Personally, I'm not sure you can make this comparison just yet...but an interesting read nonetheless.



    Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/article...#ixzz22mUSp5xQ
    44
    Anthony Davis
    36.36%
    16
    Jonas Valanciunas
    36.36%
    16
    Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
    6.82%
    3
    Brad Beal
    11.36%
    5
    Thomas Robinson
    2.27%
    1
    Other
    6.82%
    3

  • #2
    I'm a huge supporter of JV, but I still voted for Anthony Davis. Gotta be objective. JV might be a better / more effective & efficient center than Davis in 5 years, but the question asks for a 'player' and it seems that Davis might shift more towards the PF and become an overally slightly better player.
    Last edited by omgsomuchpotential; Mon Aug 6, 2012, 02:05 PM.

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    • #3
      I think Anthony Davis has the best chance at being the best player out of all the guys coming in, and I think JV will be very solid as well, but I picked MKG.

      He has the talent, skill,and all the intangibles he needs, but then again, all these guys do. What makes MKG different (to me at least) is he will be going to a team (the Bobcats) that has far less talent than the Raps or Hornets. He will need to play well for them as soon as possible, and I think because of the situation he is going to, he will develop faster than JV or Davis. He is not undersized (Davis is 220 compared to MKG being 230) and will not deal with some of those problems like Davis will, and he will not have to deal with foul trouble as much as JV will.

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      • #4
        I had to vote for Davis. I voted for potential. Davis just has a bit more, partly because he can fill more roles since he's quicker and grew up playing on the perimeter. JV may have an easier time adapting to playing the C position, but doesn't have quite as many tools. In the long run, I think it will be hard to compare them in any way other than team success because I don't know if I see their games being that similar.

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        • #5
          I can see Beal becoming a superstar in 3 years.

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          • #6
            I voted Beal as well. Since the SG crop is weak right now, and seeing his skill set, I can see him being a top 3 SG and a 25 ppg scorer in 5 years. He fits in really well with Washington and I see him and wall forming a great backcourt.

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            • #7
              Depends on how well they are coached, both have a long way to go once they get here. I personally like Val because he is a true center in terms of his height and build. Athletic power forwards are a dime a dozen (Ed Davis is like a light version of Anthony Davis) but athletic centers that are actually 7 feet tall are hard to find. As long as Val puts on the weight by his fifth year he'll be ideally built for the center spot which in my opinion is a harder position to fill than power forward.
              "Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival."

              -Churchill

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              • #8
                As of now, Anthony Davis is the better player. A perimeter player, grown into the center role. A big man who can play on the perimeter like a prototypical power forward, and dominant defensively. So, in terms of now, I'd say Davis.

                But the question is, who will be better in 5 years..

                I will stay say Davis, because his game will translate well with not so much worry on his offensive skill-set, just trying to get stronger and develop a post offense. Defensively is ability to block shots is tremendous, and has no trouble getting into foul trouble.

                Jonas needs to get stronger, improve his ability to play fundamental defense and help-side. He's quite raw offensively, but from what I've seen in both, Jonas is the much more athletic player than Davis, and is more experienced.

                In my opinion as well, Jonas has the higher basement, and lower ceiling. Davis has the lower basement, but higher ceiling.

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                • #9
                  hateslosing wrote: View Post
                  Depends on how well they are coached, both have a long way to go once they get here. I personally like Val because he is a true center in terms of his height and build. Athletic power forwards are a dime a dozen (Ed Davis is like a light version of Anthony Davis) but athletic centers that are actually 7 feet tall are hard to find. As long as Val puts on the weight by his fifth year he'll be ideally built for the center spot which in my opinion is a harder position to fill than power forward.
                  I agree. Finding a solid power forward in the league right now is not too hard to find. The last couple drafts have brought in some power forwards that are fairly solid.

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                  • #10
                    I picked other. I think a guy like Lillard will surprise everyone...


                    Also, this is Jonathan Tjarks

                    TORONTOOOOOO RAPTORSSSSSS

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                    • #11
                      Davis will be the better player in five years because he will be allowed to grow offensively and defensively, his team wants him and needs Davis to become an offensive threat. JV on the other hand will only be getting better defensively because raptors will have at least 2 scoring options more reliable than JV. But again it is still possible that JV becomes a pretty decent offensive player, in tournaments with people his own age he takes over games offensively, he is not afraid to post up and score. Remember the gold medal game for the under 19 championship, he demanded the ball in the post at the end of games.

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                      • #12
                        MyTEAM4Life wrote: View Post
                        Davis will be the better player in five years because he will be allowed to grow offensively and defensively, his team wants him and needs Davis to become an offensive threat. JV on the other hand will only be getting better defensively because raptors will have at least 2 scoring options more reliable than JV. But again it is still possible that JV becomes a pretty decent offensive player, in tournaments with people his own age he takes over games offensively, he is not afraid to post up and score. Remember the gold medal game for the under 19 championship, he demanded the ball in the post at the end of games.
                        Not to mention JV might actually pick up some moves from Bargs offensively although they do indeed play very different styles.

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                        • #13
                          omgsomuchpotential wrote: View Post
                          Not to mention JV might actually pick up some moves from Bargs offensively although they do indeed play very different styles.

                          We'll be starting to see more of this


                          TORONTOOOOOO RAPTORSSSSSS

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                          • #14
                            JV has the early skill set, nose for the ball, quickness and attitude that could turn him into a dominant center in the league in five years. Five years is a long time. He seems to have the will and drive to continue to work. Davis seems to have more raw talent. From here on in, it's all about how hard are you willing to work. I believe JV could become Duncanesque in his ability. Sure that is putting the bar up there, but I think he has the size, speed, footwork and desire.

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                            • #15
                              theycallmeZZ wrote: View Post
                              We'll be starting to see more of this


                              My vote for Jonas was heavily influenced by him playing with Andrea. Pending another calf (or other) injury to Bargs, I see him getting a lot of double teams this year, which will hopefully lead to JV being wide open at times to rack up some easy dunks.

                              I think it also depends on when Jonas gets put into the starting 5. I assume Davis will be given the keys on day 1, but I'm still not sure about Jonas. And after that of course, can he stay on the court? Will Casey let him play through some early foul trouble to get a rhythm going?

                              Jonas also has to deal with the unavoidable culture shock and language barriers. He can speak English, but it's going to take time. That could sway more advantage to Anthony Davis.

                              In the end, there's so many factors, but if developed properly, I think Jonas has the pieces around him to fuel him to stardom.
                              Walking like I'm already there.

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