Early look at the ROY chances for the Raptors rookies...

[omgsomuchpotential]

IS THAT ACTUALLY JV? Not photo-shopped? If not, oh man..

Nah man, let's just hope he fills up!

[ReubenJRD]

I really hope he manages to fill up like this until his 4th/5th season, so he could dominate.

IS THAT ACTUALLY JV? Not photo-shopped? If not, oh man..

[Hugmenot]

Training camps are more than 1 month away and people are already complaining that JV is not getting his fair share of consideration for ROY.

Wow, just wow!

[omgsomuchpotential]

I agree, if anything, are we also expecting Anthony Davis to average 20/10 in his first year? My little brother could probably defend him in the post.

I really hope he manages to fill up like this until his 4th/5th season, so he could dominate.

[ezz_bee]

I'd love to see a Raptor be considered for ROY.. but the NBA is going to be pumping "the brow" hard core. Davis is going to be their new poster child and as such they will do everything to market the kid and turn him into the next best thing (deservedly or not).

That marketing power will be hard to over come for any of the other rooks. I think it can be done if Davis ends up being mediocre, but the fact that he was already on the USA squad has already given him a huge head start.

I'd agree that Davis has a huge start, but it's not like Jonas is being ignored. Obviously I read more Raptor related news than other teams so my perspective is probably a bit skewed, but every article I've read about the raps mentions something along the lines of "If he was drafted this year he would be the consensus number 2 pick" I've read this line multiple times for different guys (including ESPN guys) so he is on their radar, and they are going to be watching him. YES the Brow has an advantage but I think that JV has an advantage over everyone else.

MKG - Already a leader in the Charlotte locker room. Will start and get all the touches he can handle. The ROY award always seems to come down to stats, so this may hurt MKG a bit as he seems to be good across the board, but not great at any one particular stat.

Not that I'm disagreeing with you but I haven't heard/read anything to this effect. Any chance you remember where you heard/read this? Also absolutely no love for JV as ROY?

Early Vegas Lines

Anthony Davis (NO) 6/5
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist (CHA) 7/1
Bradley Beal (WAS) 19/2
Harrison Barnes (GSW) 19/2
Thomas Robinson (SAC) 19/2
Jonas Valanciunas (TOR) 10/1
Dion Waiters (CLE) 20/1
John Henson (MIL) 25/1
Kendall Marshall (PHO) 25/1
Marquis Teague (CHI) 25/1
Royce White (HOU) 25/1
Andre Drummond (DET) 30/1
Austin Rivers (NO) 30/1
Damian Lillard (POR) 30/1
Jeremy Lamb (HOU) 30/1
Jared Sullinger (BOS) 30/1
Maurice Harkless (PHI) 30/1
Tyler Zeller (CLE) 30/1
Terrence Ross (TOR) 35/1
Donatas Motiejunas (HOU) 40/1
Andrew Nicholson (ORL) 40/1
John Jenkins (ATL) 40/1
Meyers Leonard (POR) 40/1

So Vegas his him ranked 6th? I'm okay with those odds.

Year Player Team
2010-11 Blake Griffin L.A. Clippers
2009-10 Tyreke Evans Sacramento
2008-09 Derrick Rose Chicago
2007-08 Kevin Durant Seattle
2006-07 Brandon Roy Portland
2005-06 Chris Paul New Orleans/Oklahoma City
2004-05 Emeka Okafor Charlotte
2003-04 LeBron James Cleveland
2002-03 Amare Stoudemire Phoenix
2001-02 Pau Gasol Memphis
2000-01 Mike Miller Orlando
1999-00 Elton Brand and Steve Francis Chicago and Houston
1998-99 Vince Carter Toronto
1997-98 Tim Duncan San Antonio
1996-97 Allen Iverson Philadelphia
1995-96 Damon Stoudamire Toronto
1994-95 Grant Hill and Jason Kidd Detroit and Dallas
1993-94 Chris Webber Golden State
1992-93 Shaquille O'Neal Orlando
1991-92 Larry Johnson Charlotte
1990-91 Derrick Coleman New Jersey
1989-90 David Robinson San Antonio
1988-89 Mitch Richmond Golden State
1987-88 Mark Jackson New York
1986-87 Chuck Person Indiana
1985-86 Patrick Ewing New York
1984-85 Michael Jordan Chicago
1983-84 Ralph Sampson Houston

Source: NBA.COM

That's the list of the players who won ROY since I was born, and that I remember watching play. (Except for Ralph Sampson and Chuck Person).

If you count all SF as Guards (like Kevin Durant), I get a 17 to 10 split for in favour of Guards. But I don't think the list of past winners precludes the Brow or JV from winning.

Having not been able to watch the NCAA tourney it's too difficult for me to make predictions, but I will say that JV will be in top 3 consideration, partly because after Davis, he's going to get the most hype.

[ceez]

Gonna go with Davis or Barnes. Davis is just really good and will impact the game right away cause he's going to play a ton and Barnes is going to be counted on to score, especially when curry and whatshisface (the aussie) inevitably go down for the season.

[IROR]

Hopefully there is a chance...Barnes, Lillard and Davis are my finalists as they are going to be key offensive contributors from game one. I'm a big fan of Lillard, so he is my early favourite.

[ReubenJRD]

"ROY talk sounds crazy to me."

The kid is a consensus #2 player if in this year's draft.

I don't think its crazy to think he'll be considered!

I agree, if anything, are we also expecting Anthony Davis to average 20/10 in his first year? My little brother could probably defend him in the post.

[StaytheCourse]

"ROY talk sounds crazy to me."

The kid is a consensus #2 player if in this year's draft.

I don't think its crazy to think he'll be considered!

[ebrian]

Who knows? But JV looks hungry and sounds like he is smart. I think he has a real desire to excel. Most of the things that could hold back him being a very high caliber player are learnable/trainable. He will increase in size and strength by simply working out and eating right. It just so happens that the Raps have one of the best strength and conditioning coaches in the world. He already has very good fundamentals with his shot. He needs to work on his post up game and making sure he can use either hand with authority. The fouling out early is eminently correctable.

I don't believe we need to wait 4 years for this kid.

We've already waited 1 year, and I don't think 3 more is unreasonable. When you look at past history of raw big men being drafted, that's about how long the learning curve is. JV is going to take 2-3 NBA years to develop, which is why all this playoffs and ROY talk sounds crazy to me.

[Puffer]

Just a though - Jonas is a project, albeit a very promising one, who will likely take the entirety of his rookie contract to show the type of player he can be...

Who knows? But JV looks hungry and sounds like he is smart. I think he has a real desire to excel. Most of the things that could hold back him being a very high caliber player are learnable/trainable. He will increase in size and strength by simply working out and eating right. It just so happens that the Raps have one of the best strength and conditioning coaches in the world. He already has very good fundamentals with his shot. He needs to work on his post up game and making sure he can use either hand with authority. The fouling out early is eminently correctable.

I don't believe we need to wait 4 years for this kid.

[Edgar]

Just a though - Jonas is a project, albeit a very promising one, who will likely take the entirety of his rookie contract to show the type of player he can be. If he is as good as Gortat at the end of his rookie scale (approx 24y/o) we should be praising the pick.

[Green Maple Leaf]

Beal is going to be better than Wall and is going to be ROY

[Nilanka]

Did paul gosol win ROY ?

Yes, in 2001 where he averaged 17 pts, 9 rebs and 2 blks, while shooting 52%. I can't see Jonas putting up those kind of numbers.

In all honesty, I'll be happier if Jonas makes the all-rookie team, which is voted by people who actually know basketball (i.e. NBA coaches).

The ROY is voted by sportswriters...

[Father rev]

Did paul gosol win ROY ?