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Dominic McGuire has reached agreement on a deal with the Toronto Raptors

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  • #16
    hmmm maybe casey got his defensive specialist
    @sweatpantsjer

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    • #17
      ceez wrote: View Post
      hmmm maybe casey got his defensive specialist
      Seems like a solid replacement for JJ.

      If he comes off the bench and provided energy, solid D and a couple baskets on broken plays, he'll earn some fans.

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      • #18
        http://o.canada.com/2012/09/09/mcgui...o-the-raptors/


        Gotta love those defensive stats

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        • #19
          I have no problem with us signing a player who does one thing really well as an end of bench player. McGuire can cover his man and that's a skill many of his (new) teammates have yet to demonstrate.

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          • #20
            Seems like an awful lot of positives about a guy who wasn't resigned by the Warriors and was signed at the end of the off-season. I'm not usually this negative about a move, but it seems a little bit sketchy to me. If this guy was a legit wing defender than I'm sure he could have found a spot on just about any and every team in the league, so why was he left to be a "last-call" signing?

            I mean, if all of the ravings are true, then great pick-up (probably more from a cultural perspective than actual on-court production).
            Heir, Prince of Cambridge

            If you see KeonClark in the wasteland, please share your food and water with him.

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            • #21
              Axel wrote: View Post
              Seems like an awful lot of positives about a guy who wasn't resigned by the Warriors and was signed at the end of the off-season. I'm not usually this negative about a move, but it seems a little bit sketchy to me. If this guy was a legit wing defender than I'm sure he could have found a spot on just about any and every team in the league, so why was he left to be a "last-call" signing?

              I mean, if all of the ravings are true, then great pick-up (probably more from a cultural perspective than actual on-court production).
              Well that's the thing, he can only defend. VERY limited skill offensively. Reached ceiling.

              He is what he is as a player.
              Twitter: @ReubenJRD NBA, Raptors writer for Daily Hive Vancouver, Toronto.

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              • #22
                Still, if he can defend the wing at an average rate or better, then why didn't he get more league interest? Surely the Knicks, Celtics and every other team in the east with play-off aspirations would love a guy would could guard D-Wade or LeBron for even a few minutes a game (I know Pierce would love the Celtics to give him a break once in a while). What about out West? Lakers, Thunder, Spurs? I just find it odd that this guy is a "defensive stopper" on the wing with what seems like ZERO interest league wide until the Raps come calling at the end of the off-season.
                Heir, Prince of Cambridge

                If you see KeonClark in the wasteland, please share your food and water with him.

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                • #23
                  Axel wrote: View Post
                  Still, if he can defend the wing at an average rate or better, then why didn't he get more league interest? Surely the Knicks, Celtics and every other team in the east with play-off aspirations would love a guy would could guard D-Wade or LeBron for even a few minutes a game (I know Pierce would love the Celtics to give him a break once in a while). What about out West? Lakers, Thunder, Spurs? I just find it odd that this guy is a "defensive stopper" on the wing with what seems like ZERO interest league wide until the Raps come calling at the end of the off-season.
                  We have no idea what kind of interest he drew League wide.

                  But I don't imagine a headline of "Atlanta rumoured to be interested in Dominic McGuire" would generate many hits across the web ...

                  I think you also have to read "Defensive Stopper" with a small grain of salt.
                  (Not that anyone has seriously called him a "defensive stopper".)

                  Keeping in mind how much he will cost us, and that he is a 'Casey-guy'; he is a solid pickup, relatively speaking.


                  He is a Role-Player, and Rotation guy. Nothing more.
                  Most of the "Good teams" you speak of, are quite heavy on solid Role-Players, and would likely rather leave a spot open in case someone becomes available via Waivers or elsewhere.
                  Last edited by Joey; Mon Sep 10th, 2012, 12:32 PM.

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                  • #24
                    Why is anyone surprised that Casey wants to fill out the roster with a guy like this? Jamal is no doubt still in the Toronto plans - the slot has yet to be announced but he'll be there for the next 5-10 years.

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                    • #25
                      joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
                      I think you also have to read "Defensive Stopper" with a small grain of salt.
                      (Not that anyone has seriously called him a "defensive stopper".)
                      I get your point, and when I re-read the full thread, most of the gushing came from Warriors fan perspectives that were added, but still, here are some of the lines you read in this thread:

                      Good tough defender
                      astoundingly good defensively
                      very rugged defender! Even shutdown Carmelo
                      McGuirre is effing AWESOME. He can guard 4 positions... last year we had him on guys like Deron and Rose at clutch moments
                      Dude is a damn good defender
                      He could defend all positions and shut down everyone.
                      Top notch defender and athlete

                      So I was taking the culmination of those comments to think that people actually view this guy as a legit defender in the league.

                      As for your point about the good teams already having solid role players, I agree that most teams have their roles, but if this guy was a defender anything like what some fans of his are saying, then surely he'd have more interest in the league than a post-labour day signing that isn't fully guaranteed. I'm sure a team like the Lakers could cut him and swallow the portion of his salary if a better player became available later on and be happy to have a guy that "destroyed Chris Paul" last year.
                      Heir, Prince of Cambridge

                      If you see KeonClark in the wasteland, please share your food and water with him.

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                      • #26
                        Axel wrote: View Post
                        I get your point, and when I re-read the full thread, most of the gushing came from Warriors fan perspectives that were added, but still, here are some of the lines you read in this thread:

                        Good tough defender
                        astoundingly good defensively
                        very rugged defender! Even shutdown Carmelo
                        McGuirre is effing AWESOME. He can guard 4 positions... last year we had him on guys like Deron and Rose at clutch moments
                        Dude is a damn good defender
                        He could defend all positions and shut down everyone.
                        Top notch defender and athlete

                        So I was taking the culmination of those comments to think that people actually view this guy as a legit defender in the league.
                        LOL Never read any of those actually. Thats funny.

                        As for your point about the good teams already having solid role players, I agree that most teams have their roles, but if this guy was a defender anything like what some fans of his are saying, then surely he'd have more interest in the league than a post-labour day signing that isn't fully guaranteed. I'm sure a team like the Lakers could cut him and swallow the portion of his salary if a better player became available later on and be happy to have a guy that "destroyed Chris Paul" last year.
                        But perhaps where the Raptors were offering a Partially-Guaranteed deal; the better teams were offering a completely Non-Guaranteed deal. Which lead to him signing with the Raps instead of the Thunder.

                        Obviously, its ALL speculation at this point, and the only people who realy know are DM, BC and his Agent. But regardless of whether he received widespread interest, or no interest at all; his role on the team will likely be equal to that of his pay-cheque. Minimal.

                        Unless GSW fans know something we don't ... and in which case, he'll be starting Opening Day at the 3.

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                        • #27
                          joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
                          LOL Never read any of those actually. Thats funny.
                          According to these fans, this guy is the 2nd coming of Scottie Pippen on Defence. Which would certainly be welcome on the Raps.
                          Heir, Prince of Cambridge

                          If you see KeonClark in the wasteland, please share your food and water with him.

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                          • #28
                            Axel wrote: View Post
                            Still, if he can defend the wing at an average rate or better, then why didn't he get more league interest? Surely the Knicks, Celtics and every other team in the east with play-off aspirations would love a guy would could guard D-Wade or LeBron for even a few minutes a game (I know Pierce would love the Celtics to give him a break once in a while). What about out West? Lakers, Thunder, Spurs? I just find it odd that this guy is a "defensive stopper" on the wing with what seems like ZERO interest league wide until the Raps come calling at the end of the off-season.
                            Because the teams you mentioned are looking at adding the Ray Allen's of the world for the same basic price tag.

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                            • #29
                              Axel wrote: View Post
                              Seems like an awful lot of positives about a guy who wasn't resigned by the Warriors and was signed at the end of the off-season. I'm not usually this negative about a move, but it seems a little bit sketchy to me. If this guy was a legit wing defender than I'm sure he could have found a spot on just about any and every team in the league, so why was he left to be a "last-call" signing?

                              I mean, if all of the ravings are true, then great pick-up (probably more from a cultural perspective than actual on-court production).
                              I think the signing is relative. He is, in my opinion, a good third string signing and a depth signing. Probably getting a little over analyzed due to the time of year and little is happening.

                              The deal is not even guaranteed it seems. Always nice to have a guy fighting for his pay cheque who is already an aggressive defender and rebounder.

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                              • #30
                                Matt52 wrote: View Post
                                ...Always nice to have a guy fighting for his pay cheque who is already an aggressive defender and rebounder.
                                Key point I think. He will go hard every minute of practice as well as floor time. Casey has five "role" cards for each player? This guy has only three - rebound, play your man, block the passing lane.

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